So let me ask you a question: How come when some evo putz on this board accuses people of believing in "magic" and "God saying 'poof'" because they are IDers or creationists, I never see someone like you coming into the conversation and saying, "Well look, evolution doesn't say that life happened without God, it only says it changed after a certain point, so stop the insults?"
I'm not asking that to be combative. I'd really like to know why it never seems to occur to y'all that as a group you're basically expecting to have it both ways.
In my experience with these threads, the references to magic and "poof" have to do with creating animals fully formed (creationist view) or intervening in some unspecified way in the evolutionary process to add new parts (ID view). I haven't seen those words applied to the idea that God was involved in the origin of life. As far as I can tell, most "evos" here believe in God, so I'm sure they believe He was somehow involved in the origin of life, even it it was only to "create" (however one views the act of creation) a universe in which life was inevitable, given the rules and conditions. Some atheists may deride even that as magic and poof, but I haven't seen them on these threads.
"Evolution doesn't say that life happened without God, it only says it changed after a certain point." But creationists and IDers aren't satisfied with that. Well, creationists are, but they insist that "certain point" was after birds and cows and people were already in existence as such. And IDers won't say when they think that "certain point" was, but they think evolution needed a little help to get that far.
Anyway, I don't think most of "us" are expecting to have it both ways. The core argument is, once something we can all agree was "life" existed, natural selection of genetic variation got us to where we are today. Arguments about life's origins are down the hall.