[animal172]

This has been going for decades. I remember being on the perimeter in DiAn, Vietnam in late 1968 early 1969 ( memory fading) when a whole bunch of NVA walked right by. Close enough to smell them and we couldn't fire because they didn't fire first. I remember calling in permission to fire while flying left seat in a Loach and being denied because they hadn't fired first. No way to run a war. No way to run a military. Thank God the same policies weren't in effect during WWII.

[rlmorel]

Right. My contention is that this is not a “Bush” policy, this kind of creeping thing has been getting more and more ingrained, accelerating upwards exponentially at the end of the eighties. Bush did wrong by those Marines, and I discredit him with that. But can you imagine if we had high intensity, long duration combat going on during the Clinton years? It makes me shudder to think of it.

And by the way, thanks for your service, FRiend...

[La Enchiladita]

WWII, the last time we knew how to fight. Thank you and “Welcome Home.”