Another victory for Zero tolerance

Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | November 23, 2009 | Dave Workman

[Still Thinking]

For those who missed his appearance on Fox & Friends Monday morning, Willows High School junior Gary Tudesko, with his mother, Susan Parisio at his side, seemed like a normal kid who might live across the street in any American neighborhood, and you would be glad to have him there.

This Northern California teen has now been branded by an expulsion by the Willows Unified School District board for having had unloaded shotguns locked in his pickup truck off-campus (!) on Oct. 26. They were discovered by “scent-sniffing dogs.” They belonged to Gary and one of his pals who - and this is the gist of it - had done a little bird hunting that morning, then went directly to school in order to not be tardy.

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But that obviously was not good enough for the school board, or Principal Mort Geivett, who was quoted by the Chico Enterprise Record explaining how he felt the school had jurisdiction to send a nosey dog off campus to sniff around cars in a public area because "most of the vehicles belong to students".

[Still Thinking]

Liberals' campaign to preempt satire continues unabated. I wonder if this fooking maroon thinks he can take his dogs to the kids houses because some of the cars parked there belong to kids. Ooh, ooh, I wonder if the place where the kid parked his car was private property, like his driveway would be, and if these Nazis obtained permission from the property owner before doing their despicable Nazi business on that private property? If so, and I were the owner, I'd be looking into filing suit as we speak.

[Texas Fossil]

From earlier article=>

“Student expelled for having unloaded shotguns in truck”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391402/posts

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Willows High School

The school office is open 7:30am - 4pm, Monday - Thursday and 7:30am - 3:30pm Friday.

Phone: (530) 934-6611.

Principal:
Mort Geivett, ext. 2002

e-mail mgeivett@willowsunified.org

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Here is a vague article that hints at problems where he worked last. It might be a good idea to contact school board members and suggest they should have investigated before hiring him.

‘WUSD: Principal & number-two administrator take other jobs’

News-Ledger, July 26, 2006

http://www.news-ledger.com/departureofGeivettCotterell.htm

[Still Thinking]

Thanks, TF.

[tatsinfla]

when one of my daughters was in jumior high her and her friend smoked on the way to the bus stop...another student reported it and they were called to the principles office and searched...while i thanked them for letting me know about the smoking i did have a problem with them overstepping thier boundries...the principle told me they have jurisdiction over the students as soon as they walk out of thier front door for the bus stop...this didn’t set well at all since my step son had had problems being bullied on the school bus and i was told by the same principle that the school didn’t have any jurisdiction until the students were on school property....i guess its just whatever suits them at the moment...

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

What the hell is a “scent-sniffing dog?” That’s what dogs sniff!

[Still Thinking]

There are dogs trained to detect the smell of gunpowder similar to dogs trained to detect the scent of planted drug residue.

[Eagle Eye]

But for what possible LEGITIMATE purpose?

Patrolling for legal items off campus?

Using police to enforce school policy OFF CAMPUS on without connection to school activities?

I don’t think so...and I think someone is in trouble or should be.

[maine yankee]

What the hell is a “scent-sniffing dog?” That’s what dogs sniff!
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Bill clinton

[Still Thinking]

I wasn’t defending it; far from it. I was just explaining the concept.

[Still Thinking]

Jeez, dude! They’re just dogs. You don’t have to insult them!

[TankerKC]

They were discovered by “scent-sniffing dogs.”

So, all any authority has to do is walk by a vehicle with their dog and...how many rights do we give up at that point?

[Noumenon]

There are dogs trained to detect the smell of gunpowder...

Oh, Lordy - they'd go crazy over my Avalanche.

[Still Thinking]

Hey, that’s nothing. With the drug sniffing ones, they can keep a little baggie of pot in their pocket, reach in and touch it before swiping a finger across your trunk, and voila, PC! And THAT’S assuming it’s not enough that determination of whether or not the dog has “alerted” is at the sole discretion of the people who are trying to find something.

[Knitebane]

There are dogs trained to detect the smell of gunpowder similar to dogs trained to detect the scent of planted drug residue.

I suspect that these dogs were trained to detect that their handler wanted them to "detect" something.

How can you tell the difference between a car that has a shotgun in it and one that had one in it yesterday? The dog can't.

By the anonymous tip that you got. That's how.

[Still Thinking]

Good point. See my #13 for additional scenarios.

[Knitebane]

Yeah, that occurred to me too.

So what they are saying is that the dog, attached by chain to a cop carrying a gun on his hip, is able to then point out the car with a gun in it.

Riiiight.

[Still Thinking]

Ooh! Another good point. Hadn’t even though of that one. Don’t know that it was a cop though. I’ve heard of private dicks (and I do mean dicks) using these dogs and they might not be carrying, or it might be some unarmed school rent-a-cop. I can’t believe actual sworn cops not in the district’s employ would even shop up for something like this.

[Still Thinking]

Erps. "show up"

[Knitebane]

Well back in the 80's when we had drug dogs in the school they were always attached to badged officers.

It might be different now, of course.

[Still Thinking]

Lucky me. We had no cops on campus, rent-a or otherwise. Hell, we didn’t even have a fence around the school. In more current times, I’ve seen both real cops (usually called “resource officers” or “liaison officers”) and rent-a-cops on campus. The part where I was talking about professional security (of higher than rent-a-cop grade) was as consultants to companies for site security.