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Key scientist says politics behind stolen e-mails
Asociated Press ^ | November 24, 2009 | By P. SOLOMON BANDA

Posted on 11/24/2009 4:43:29 AM PST by libstripper

A leading climate change scientist said hackers breaking into a university's computer server and then posting documents online show the nasty politics of global warming.

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KEYWORDS: cruhack; globalwarming; hadleycru
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This "scientist, "Kevin Trenberth, head of the climate analysis section of the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder[,]" is, as can be seen from the article, one of the main perpetrators of the AGW fraud. The most notable thing is that, while whining about the discolsoed documents allegedly being taken out of context, he doesn't deny their authenticity. Equally important, he's shown no desire to reveal the whole body of documents to show the actual context of the revealed ones, clearly indicating that the revealed documents show exactly what's been going on.
1 posted on 11/24/2009 4:43:30 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Sounds like ACORN. LOL


2 posted on 11/24/2009 4:45:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: libstripper
You know, a simple question to ask yourself, since this isn't about nuclear weaponry or some such -- why did they hide the raw temperature data from other researchers? Answer that and you will understand the vicious politics of the hoax. All you need to know.
3 posted on 11/24/2009 4:46:12 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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To: libstripper

It is humorous to see that, so far, nobody has denied the authenticity of these leaked documents.

The only angle they have is the context, which, as you said, means they must reveal more to put these into context.

I imagine there is a massive e-mail cleanup underway around the world!


4 posted on 11/24/2009 4:46:35 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yup, someone stole the truth and we are gonna find out who ti was and punish them.


5 posted on 11/24/2009 4:47:58 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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No different that Dan Rather’s “Just because the evidence is fake doesn’t mean it isn’t true!”

Mark


6 posted on 11/24/2009 4:49:42 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: libstripper

They will try to take the heat off of themselves and obscure what the files reveal by pointing the finger at the hacker. “Don’t look at me! There was a crime committed by a hacker!”


7 posted on 11/24/2009 4:52:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: libstripper

Or as was suggested by a right wing pundit, “Someone got a conscience”


8 posted on 11/24/2009 4:52:53 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: libstripper

Politics is a double edge sword. It is used for good when truth is reveled.


9 posted on 11/24/2009 4:55:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: libstripper

Headline:
“Liars accuse theives of stealing and exposing the truth for political purposes!”


10 posted on 11/24/2009 4:57:01 AM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: libstripper

Yeah. Its all about politics. Which is why the New York Times, which was a conduit for the hoax, Media Matters and the Center for American Progress were screaming from day one about the emails being “out of context” (if they were real at all), a criminal break-in and this entire matter being of no real importance because like, you know, the science is settled, the debate is over.

According to some theories, hackers weren’t involved at all. The CRU put out the Russian hacker story. Someone in the group or close to the group might have had his or her conscience bother them to the extent he or she couldn’t tolerate the hoax anymore.


11 posted on 11/24/2009 4:57:11 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Tarpon

You cannot be both a scientist and one who hides the data.


12 posted on 11/24/2009 4:58:07 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: libstripper

When the left does the same kind of thing no one on the left ever gets outraged over it.


13 posted on 11/24/2009 4:58:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: libstripper

So the motivation for revealing information affects the veracity and import of the information how?


14 posted on 11/24/2009 4:58:53 AM PST by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a bunch of Communists to your Administration?)
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To: libstripper

This “scientist, “Kevin Trenberth,

It doesn’t take much to be called a scientist these days. Apparently using the scientific method is no longer required.


15 posted on 11/24/2009 4:59:18 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: DJ MacWoW
They will try to take the heat off of themselves and obscure what the files reveal by pointing the finger at the hacker. “Don’t look at me! There was a crime committed by a hacker!”

A hacker who may not exist. From Watts' Up With That:

Author CJ. Licensed under Creative Commons.

I have a theory.

With the blogosphere all atwitter about the emails and data “stolen” from the Climatic Research Institute at the University of East Anglia, two theories have become dominant describing the origin of the incident.

1. CRU was hacked and the data stolen by skilled hackers, perhaps an individual or more insidiously some sophisticated group, such as Russian agents.

2. An insider leaked the information to the NSM (non-mainstream media)

Theory number one is the preferred explanation of the defenders of CRU. This allows them to portray CRU as victims of illegal acts. It allows them to scream bloody murder and call for an investigation of the crime. How can we take the fruits of hideous crime seriously? The end does not justify the means!

One of our favorite writers, Gavin Schmidt, has expanded on this theme with the report:

He [Gavin] said the breach at the University of East Anglia was discovered after hackers who had gained access to the correspondence sought Tuesday to hack into a different server supporting realclimate.org, a blog unrelated to NASA that he runs with several other scientists pressing the case that global warming is true.

The intruders sought to create a mock blog post there and to upload the full batch of files from Britain. That effort was thwarted, Dr. Schmidt said, and scientists immediately notified colleagues at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html

I believe the above statement by Gavin to be a big bunch of hooey. I believe the “hack” was a posting of the same blog comment which was posted at The Air Vent . . .

continued here


16 posted on 11/24/2009 5:03:58 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: libstripper; WL-law; Fractal Trader; Beowulf; Genesis defender; markomalley; scripter; ...
Sounds like a tacit admission from a that AGW was a political scam all along. Big Surprise, eh?

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 11/24/2009 5:07:43 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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Trenberth, a well-respected atmospheric scientist, said it did not appear that all the documents stolen from the university had been distributed on the Internet by the hackers.

Interesting. This statement indicates that they know exactly what docs were leaked and that they have backups. It initially sounded as if they were going to claim that the server files had been destroyed by the "hacker," but I guess that won't fly.

18 posted on 11/24/2009 5:08:29 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: ALPAPilot

A scientist who hides data....cannot be a scientist.

Imagine Einstein standing there...with a tremendous bit of knowledge in his hands...and his solution of “E=McSquare” was actually only fifty percent of the entire discovery.

Imagine someone standing there who has discovered the evil of DDT and pesticide....but they only tell you half of the entire story...to drive home the evil of DDT.

Imagine someone standing there....with vast knowledge over cellphone and their threat to your health....but only wants to tell you half of the story.

You can’t be such a scientist in this case...if you hinder or hold back knowledge.


19 posted on 11/24/2009 5:09:06 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Brugmansian

Interesting stuff. And a hacker doesn’t have to exist for them to use the claim to refocus attention.


20 posted on 11/24/2009 5:09:55 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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