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Recovery.gov won't correct job numbers
On The Record w/Greta

Posted on 11/23/2009 10:47:50 PM PST by kcvl

Recovery.gov won't correct job numbers on $18 MILLION website

WH Advisor: People care about creating jobs, not counting them


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; missinglink; obama; recovery; youlie
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1 posted on 11/23/2009 10:47:50 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

In other words more of the policy of “It’s not accurate but it’s true”

We have to remember that when conservatives are in charge.


2 posted on 11/23/2009 10:49:43 PM PST by dila813
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To: kcvl

I wonder who created that site..the Venezuelan Government..sure looks like it..18 million bucks of pure BS


3 posted on 11/23/2009 10:50:36 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dila813

Errors in Jobs Reporting No Surprise, Government’s Stimulus Chief Testifies
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FOXNews.com

The head of the government panel charged with tracking the use of stimulus funds told lawmakers Thursday that he’s not surprised to see mistakes like phantom congressional districts showing up on a Web site devoted to reporting the data.

The head of the government panel charged with tracking the use of stimulus funds told lawmakers Thursday that he’s not surprised to see mistakes like phantom congressional districts showing up on a Web site devoted to reporting jobs data.

Earl Devaney, chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, said the newest mistakes have been corrected, but Americans just got a look at the sausage-making that goes into agency reporting.

“You and the American public are now seeing what agencies have seen internally for years, and what we are all seeing, at least following this first reporting period, is not particularly pretty,” Devaney told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

“This raw form, unsanitized data may cause embarrassment for some agencies and recipients, but my expectation is that any embarrassment suffered will encourage self-correcting behavior and lead to better reporting in the future,” he said.

The Obama administration’s official Web site, Recovery.gov, has been posting reports fed by recipients of $173 billion in stimulus funding on how many jobs the grants they have received have created or saved in respective locales.

The administration had announced that the stimulus has so far created or saved 640,000 jobs, but pared back the number of jobs created or saved by 60,000 from its initial analysis.

In virtually all 50 states, claims were made on behalf of congressional districts that don’t exist.

The errors, including what the Franklin Center for Government & Public Integrity, counted up as nearly $6.4 billion for nearly 30,000 jobs in 440 non-existing districts, has earned criticism from several Republicans, including Indiana Rep. Dan Burton.

Burton, who has a reputation for fiery and flamboyant eruptions during hearings, said the Obama administration has been “an absolute disaster as far as the economy is concerned.”

He added that while President Obama is one of the most eloquent presidents Burton has heard in his lifetime, “all he does is campaign,” and has done “almost zero” to promote job creation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/19/errors-jobs-reporting-surprise-governments-stimulus-watchdog-says/


4 posted on 11/23/2009 10:52:03 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

bump


5 posted on 11/23/2009 10:52:28 PM PST by VOA
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I wonder who created that site..the Venezuelan Government..sure looks like it..18 million bucks of pure BS

That wasn't to build it, that was just to UPDATE it!

No one as been able to find out what the website actually cost in total!

6 posted on 11/23/2009 10:53:27 PM PST by kcvl
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To: VOA

$18M Being Spent to Redesign Recovery.gov Web Site

July 08, 2009 9:50 PM

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: For those concerned about stimulus spending, the General Services Administration sends word tonight that $18 million in additional funds are being spent to redesign the Recovery.gov Web site.

The new Web site promises to give taxpayers more information about where their money is going than the current version of the site.

“Recovery.gov 2.0 will use innovative and interactive technologies to help taxpayers see where their dollars are being spent,” James A. Williams, commissioner of GSA’s Federal Acquisition Service, says in a press release announcing the contract awarded to Maryland-based Smartronix Inc. “Armed with easy access to this information, taxpayers can make government more accountable for its decisions.”

The contract calls for spending $9.5 million through January, and as much as $18 million through 2014, according to the GSA press release.

“We are pleased that another major milestone has been achieved,” Earl E. Devaney, chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, says in the press release. “We thank the GSA for its assistance and look forward to working with Smartronix.”

UPDATE: The RNC has released a new web ad mocking the Obama administration’s decision to allocate additional funds to the redesign of the Recovery.gov Web site.

http://tinyurl.com/yfa24vt


7 posted on 11/23/2009 10:56:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Greta and Steven Moore kept bouncing around ideas for why the White House won’t correct the numbers on the site. They missed the obvious one: Because they can’t. There is no way to accurately determine “saved jobs”, and the White House either admits this or leaves the website unchanged as an $18,000,000 propaganda piece.


8 posted on 11/23/2009 10:57:41 PM PST by LostInBayport (When the riders in the cart outnumber those pulling the cart, the cart stops moving. My back hurts.)
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To: kcvl

Why isn’t anyone questioning the $18m for the website?

If it’s all about saving costs, I’ll gladly do it for a mere $10m. My 30 years of development experience and hundreds of thousands of happy customers should prove my ability to deliver on the contract

:)


9 posted on 11/23/2009 10:58:27 PM PST by sten
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To: dila813

In the Banks School District, for example, more than 10 full-time equivalent jobs were created or saved, where none were reported on the site.

And while no jobs were reported created in a $3.7 million grant to nonprofit Worksystems for youth job placement, Worksystems Executive Director Andrew McGough said nearly 1,300 jobs were funded through the stimulus.

Those children were given summer jobs at community service providers and were paid through stimulus money.

Similarly, a $673,267 grant to help with career training for workers laid off from the Sauer Danfoss factory in Hillsboro is hard to measure in terms of immediate jobs created. That grant also funded child care, on-the-job training and transportation costs.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/argus/index.ssf?/base/news/125900763896680.xml&coll=6

The site had some problems reporting spending, as well.

“In several cases, the information simply does not correspond at this time,” said Washington County spokseman Philip Bransford. “We would need to learn more about how Recovery.gov is approaching the financial data before we could explain the differences.”

Forest Grove School District spokeswoman Connie Potter said the district received $200,000 less than the site reported in fiscal stabilization money.


10 posted on 11/23/2009 11:02:21 PM PST by kcvl
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To: dila813

NOVEMBER 24, 2009

How About ‘Phantom’ Reporters?

It’s tempting to excuse the Associated Press from that responsibility, as it already had 11 reporters busy fact-checking every page of Sarah Palin’s autobiography. However, they were able to spare one reporter to fact check the recovery.gov fact-checkers. That writer’s conclusion was that the data error “significance is overstated, and in some instances, fabricated.” He conceded that the problems do raise questions about job-count accuracy, “but the ‘phantom congressional districts’ are being used as a phantom issue to suggest that stimulus money has been misspent.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574548280182710574.html


11 posted on 11/23/2009 11:04:15 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Agood lie well told


12 posted on 11/23/2009 11:07:24 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: sten
Why isn’t anyone questioning the $18m for the website?

Only people I know questioning it is Greta & Steve Moore. All they received from an FOIA request was pages and pages of redacted information...ALL BLACKED OUT...every single word BLACKED OUT.

Remember, this is the Obama transparency.

13 posted on 11/23/2009 11:07:36 PM PST by kcvl
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I bet their data is more accurate than the Global Warming Models.

Hey, joking, how bout this

...”Our site is really referring to the number of reporters we could theoretically employ to fact check this site...”


14 posted on 11/23/2009 11:07:54 PM PST by dila813
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To: sten

BTW, the total cost is MORE THAN $18 MILLION. That is just what the UPGRADE cost.


15 posted on 11/23/2009 11:08:56 PM PST by kcvl
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To: dila813

Recovery.gov is the same as the Obama administration...ONE BIG FREAKEN FRAUD!


16 posted on 11/23/2009 11:10:12 PM PST by kcvl
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$18 million dollars worth of FAIL.

Besides, Barry , Biden, and his congregation of failure economist must continue to perpetuate the big lie...


17 posted on 11/23/2009 11:20:30 PM PST by cranked
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To: kcvl

but accurate..heheheh


18 posted on 11/23/2009 11:23:09 PM PST by dila813
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To: kcvl

The lies of lying liars!


19 posted on 11/23/2009 11:45:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: kcvl
This is a good illustration of what government run health care will cost.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 11:49:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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