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To: cogitator

First, no one is saying that the adjusted data is worthless; it is just uncertain at the discrete levels necessary to show small changes for use as extrapolative values. The cooling we now experience is not really colder than any part of the record but the trend remaining toward an accelerated warming in lockstep with seemingly inexorable increases in CO2 requires a continuing shift in start-present graphs to remain obvious.

The measurements of El Nino, La Nina are separated from the global set have their own divergences.

I never started with a full table, I’m just peeing on it out of disgust with the childish behavior displayed by supposed wise men.

If just one researcher could show an unequivocal setpoint where the global temperature ought to be, at least we would have a starting point.


91 posted on 12/05/2009 8:53:29 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
"but the trend remaining toward an accelerated warming in lockstep with seemingly inexorable increases in CO2 requires a continuing shift in start-present graphs to remain obvious."

The thing is, global climate is variable. A simple fact lost on a lot of doubters is that the temperature doesn't have to rise in lockstep with increasing atmospheric CO2. It would be stranger if it did -- this is planet with a complex climate system.

If just one researcher could show an unequivocal setpoint where the global temperature ought to be, at least we would have a starting point.

I don't know about temperature. I'll show you where atmospheric CO2 ought to be, from a purely objective standpoint:


93 posted on 12/05/2009 10:21:09 PM PST by cogitator
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