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To: mysterio; autumnraine

>>If you lie about the vaccine and post “natural medicine” blogs as support of those lies, I will show up and debunk it on every thread you post.<<

And if someone says that they have had side effects that are the same as the flu, you berate them and tell them, they can’t get the flu from the vaccine. I told you that I would be on every thread where you say this and state these facts,

Wrong in two ways.
1. The nasal vaccine is live and DOES give one the virus. A weakened virus but a virus all the same.

2. “The flu” being the general term used to describe a group of symptoms. It’s used generically like “Band-Aid” Not a single person who comes onto these threads says that they got the virus from a vaccine, they say the got “the flu”. So YOU accuse people of “lying” when the group of symptoms come from their own personal experiences.

Disregarding a person’s symptoms and alluding to the idea of getting the vaccine anyway, is handing out internet medical advice. It is unethical and you are not a doctor.


25 posted on 11/22/2009 3:32:35 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

I just got a flu shot a few weeks back and I felt like crap for days. I ran a fever, body aches, etc... Granted I didn’t get chest symptoms, but I felt like hell. I have had the flu once in 10 years. I’ll take my chances rather than KNOW I’m going to feel like crap for three days.


26 posted on 11/22/2009 3:45:48 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: netmilsmom
And if someone says that they have had side effects that are the same as the flu, you berate them and tell them, they can’t get the flu from the vaccine.

You can't get the flu from the shot. It's unpossible.

1. The nasal vaccine is live and DOES give one the virus. A weakened virus but a virus all the same.

The nasal spray (LAIV) contains attenuated live virus. It's not recommended for those with weakened immune systems or asthma. Although I haven't read of anyone getting the flu from it, I suppose that would be remotely possible. When you "caught the flu from the vaccine," was the vaccine in question the spray or the shot?

2. “The flu” being the general term used to describe a group of symptoms. It’s used generically like “Band-Aid” Not a single person who comes onto these threads says that they got the virus from a vaccine, they say the got “the flu”. So YOU accuse people of “lying” when the group of symptoms come from their own personal experiences.

You can't catch the flu from the flu shot. It does, however, take two weeks to achieve full immunity from the shot. So if you catch the flu from another source sometime in that window, you'll still get the flu, and those who aren't aware that they can't catch the flu from the shot might think they caught the flu from the shot. But they didn't catch the flu from the shot.

Disregarding a person’s symptoms and alluding to the idea of getting the vaccine anyway, is handing out internet medical advice. It is unethical and you are not a doctor.

No, but I did take immunology and multiple micro courses at the graduate level and I stayed at a holiday inn express last night.

It is unethical to distribute incorrect woo about vaccines in an effort to scare people away from getting them, however.
27 posted on 11/22/2009 4:09:13 PM PST by mysterio
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To: netmilsmom

Pot, kettle, black.


29 posted on 11/22/2009 5:00:50 PM PST by dangerdoc
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