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1 posted on 11/22/2009 11:11:45 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine
Don't have to worry, can't get one even if I wanted one, selectively denied, or rationed.
2 posted on 11/22/2009 11:18:37 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: autumnraine

DON’T GET IT!

Excerpts:

First, the disease.

Swine flu had killed 161 Canadians as of November 12. T

hat works out to one death per 200,000 Canadians in the past six-and-a-half months.

Over the same period of time, major

cardiovascular diseases typically claim 240 times more Canadian lives (about 39,000),

cancer claims 230 times more (37,000 deaths),

pneumonia kills 18 times more (2,800), and

accidental falls claim eight times more (1,260),

according to calculations based on 2005 Statistics Canada figures.

...

H1N1 has about the same death rate as hernias. But we don’t see scary front-page headlines for months on end about hernias, pneumonia, or falling down.

...

Schabas said H1N1 “has ultimately turned out to be, from a pandemic perspective, a dud”.

...

This result could be a concern, Shaw said, because Canadian authorities are telling pregnant women to get the nonadjuvanted H1N1 vaccine since the adjuvanted version hasn’t ever been tested on pregnant women. Shaw also said the animal-study information in the leaflet lacks many important details and would be “unpublishable” as presented. “Any [medical-journal] referee would kick this out the window.”

...

Although these reactions are minor, the leaflet also says four of 253 people studied experienced “severe adverse reactions”. Three of the four were deemed to be unrelated to the vaccine, but one case of hypersensitivity (which can mean anything from an allergic reaction to autoimmune disease) was determined “to be related to vaccination”.

That one serious reaction might not sound like a lot, but it actually translates into a rate of 395 cases per 100,000 people. That’s more than 50 times the rate of hospitalization due to H1N1 itself: 7.3 per 100,000 Canadians.

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Speaking by phone from his office, Bhakdi cited the higher rate of heart problems when 1.4 million U.S. soldiers were vaccinated for smallpox before the 2003 Iraq war.

Soldiers who received the vaccine had almost 7.5 times the rate of heart inflammation of nonvaccinated personnel, according to a study by U.S. military medical researchers in 2004 in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

“Unexpected serious adverse effects thus may follow in the wake of a general vaccination program,” Bhakdi’s paper said.

Yet health authorities and doctors are urging people with heart problems to get the H1N1 vaccine on a priority basis and do not appear to be monitoring them for possibly elevated risks, he said.

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What especially worries Shaw is the possibility of longer-term side effects from the vaccine. Most vaccine safety studies monitor patients for a few days or, at most, several months.

That isn’t enough, Shaw says. With some vaccines, the most serious reactions have taken years to surface. “Neurological problems don’t happen overnight,” he said. “It took five to 10 years to see the bulk of the Gulf War–syndrome outcomes.”

One of the best examples involves a controversial ingredient present in the H1N1 vaccine: thimerosal. Thimerosal is a form of mercury used in some vaccines as a preservative. Drug makers agreed to phase it out of most vaccines after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration found in 1999 that mercury levels in children who had gotten multiple shots often exceeded safety levels set by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Nonetheless, thimerosal still remains in many flu vaccines.

Controversy has raged for years about whether or not thimerosal is behind soaring childhood autism rates. While that debate continues, a 2008 study in the U.K. journal Toxicological and Environmental Chemistry found that boys who were given a vaccine containing thimerosal were nine times more likely to have developmental problems than unvaccinated boys.

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Debate has raged for years about whether or not squalene is responsible for Gulf War syndrome. Most research suggests that’s not the case, but in recent years much more solid evidence has found squalene can cause autoimmune diseases like lupus and rheumatoid arthritis in animals.

Still other questions have been raised about polysorbate 80, another component of the H1N1 vaccine adjuvant. Studies have found it can cause severe allergic reactions and hypersensitivity.

In the end, we might only get a good picture of the vaccine’s side effects long after swine flu has run its course. Then again, with Canada’s lax monitoring system for side effects, we may never know which was worse.


3 posted on 11/22/2009 11:26:20 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: autumnraine

I received mine last Monday...no side effects at all.


5 posted on 11/22/2009 11:36:25 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: autumnraine
Another day, another anti-vaccine woo thread.

Got my shot last week, finally.
7 posted on 11/22/2009 11:40:13 AM PST by mysterio
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To: autumnraine
Halted in Canada due to deaths from good old vaccine

http://dprogram.net/2009/11/20/canada-the-killer-h1n1-vaccine-michel-chossudovsky/

10 posted on 11/22/2009 11:56:15 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: autumnraine

I was diagnosed with MS shortly after receiving the series of Hep B vaccines (I worked for a healthcare provider and was required to get it.)

For a few years, British researchers thought they could tie the Hep B vaccine to MS, but that theory fizzled.

I don’t know if it “caused” the MS, but I do believe it could have been a trigger. I don’t get flu shots, the only vaccine I’ve had since diagnosis was a pneumonia shot and it sent me into an exacerbation, so no vaccines for me.


12 posted on 11/22/2009 11:59:00 AM PST by dawn53
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To: autumnraine

Where is this flu vaccine manufactured? Does anyone here know if we have any domestic sources?

After the 1970’s epidemic,, U.S. manufacturers had their butts sued off because about 1 in 40,000 recipients (less than 1000 nationwide) suffered serious side effects (about 38 deaths an 800 paralyzed).


15 posted on 11/22/2009 12:25:33 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: autumnraine
Interesting figures:

Although these reactions are minor, the leaflet also says four of 253 people studied experienced “severe adverse reactions”. Three of the four were deemed to be unrelated to the vaccine, but one case of hypersensitivity (which can mean anything from an allergic reaction to autoimmune disease) was determined “to be related to vaccination”.

That one serious reaction might not sound like a lot, but it actually translates into a rate of 395 cases per 100,000 people. That’s more than 50 times the rate of hospitalization due to H1N1 itself: 7.3 per 100,000 Canadians.


17 posted on 11/22/2009 1:01:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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