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To: what's up; mockingbyrd
We have yet to go thru the debate process and the REAL vote to pass the legislation. The real vote is where Lieberman could come thru and stop this thing.

Not exactly the case.

This vote was to open debate. Since the GOP announced a filibuster, it required 60 votes rather than the normal majority to open debate.

The next vote on the entire bill (including any amendments which might pass in the meantime) will be for cloture -- to close debate. That will require another 60 votes.

If it receives them, debate then ceases and they will then move for passage of the bill -- which would require only 51 votes.

If the cloture vote doesn't get 60 votes, then debate technically continues. But the practical effect will be to table the bill.

So, the cloture vote is critical -- essentially our last chance. There is little doubt that Dingy Harry can line up at least 50 Democrats to vote "yea" (Joe Biden could break a 50-50 tie).

Be careful, though, of Democrats who a.) vote for cloture, then b.) vote against the bill. There is room for as many as ten to do so -- which would allow the duplicitous SOBs to claim that they "voted against the health care bill".

27 posted on 11/21/2009 7:43:22 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01
If it receives them, debate then ceases and they will then move for passage of the bill -- which would require only 51 votes.

True.

45 posted on 11/21/2009 7:55:13 PM PST by what's up
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