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To: jveritas

“There is still 60 votes required to end the debate and the socialists do not have the 60 votes as long as the bill contain the current version of the public option.”

They are roughly 1-2 votes away from attaining this goal. There is plenty to panic about due to the fact that we are totally beholden to politicians who continually deceive Americans with legislative gimmicks and trickery. They can be bought with gimmicks like “triggers” and “optouts”.

A RINO could bolt or Liebermann...if we hold this off it is likely by one vote, if we hold it off.

When do we panic? After we lose?

It’s too close not to be alarmed. The Dems are much better than GOP at these legislative games.

1 or 2 votes away from Socialism and the beginning of the end for our country...yep, nothing to panic here /sarc off.


108 posted on 11/21/2009 9:10:37 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: rbmillerjr

Be alarmed yes but PANIC is way overblown and stupid at this early stage.


111 posted on 11/21/2009 9:14:02 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: rbmillerjr

When do we panic? NEVER. WE FIGHT! Panic begets discouragement and defeat. We’re in a cold civil war. This is only one battle. We will win if we stick together and stay fighting mad. But avoid losing your cool, ever.


123 posted on 11/21/2009 9:37:04 PM PST by praepos
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To: rbmillerjr

Bingo....way too much Prozac being used on this thread ;)

The Dems will ram anything through. Scale it down as far as need be to pass. By then it will be too late. They will simple add all the crap back on after it passes.

It’s a monster turd that will ensure a Euro-pee-on style socialism in America. Conservatives can kiss goodbye any hopes of being elected unless they are just as good at promising the electorate all the health care goodies that the DEMONCRATS are handing out. It’s a disaster. Freedom itself is a stake.


126 posted on 11/21/2009 9:39:23 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: rbmillerjr

“When do we panic? After we lose?”

That was the philosopy B.OR used to avoid discussing these “health care” bills. “We realy don’t know what’s in the bill untill it is passed.” See how it worked out for him?


176 posted on 11/22/2009 4:29:19 AM PST by PIF
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