[usconservative]

Dingy has the votes to start the debate.

At the end of the day, the 60 votes to start the "debate" means they have at least 51 to pass the bill. I sure as hell hope it's not true.

[upstanding]

That's it. This country has officially retreated from the free world. We now live in a Marxist country... and I now think of it in the terms that I use for all dictatorships. Screw the government, screw the oligarchs, and especially screw all the teat-sucking lowlifes that have progressively voted us all into serfdom.

I am Atlas and I will shrug.