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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009
| Kristinn
Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn
C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.
The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.
Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.
The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: mojitojoe
I am with you. We should ALL start now, like you say, not NOT pay any taxes until the last minute, and maybe, if we can get critical mass, not at all.
WE are their bosses.
We need a leader outside of politics to be our keystone. The government needs some reminders, peaceful reminders, of just exactly what their role is in a FREE country.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:51:03 PM PST
by
Yaelle
To: usconservative
California is deducting 10% from everyone’s paycheck.
An involuntary loan.
That will be next on O’s hit list against those of us who actually work for a living rather than scam dollars from other taxpayers for a living.
He’ll call it an Afghan War Tax.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:52:49 PM PST
by
Carley
(OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
To: usconservative
"Don't ever give this Government your money a second before you absolutely, positively have to. If they had to wait until April 15th to get ANY of our tax dollars it sure as hell would change their behavior."
I wonder if we have even gotten beyond that stage? This Administration doesn't seen to have any problem with just printing money. Also, they would delight in assessing penalties for under-withholding for any taxpayers who paid everything on April 15th. We are probably beyond the stage of traditional protests and opposition. Maybe the 2010 elections can be used to check the Marxist takeover, but how to get it reversed will be even harder.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:54:32 PM PST
by
Truth29
To: Carley
Hell call it an Afghan War Tax. For the life of me, I don't know why y'all insist on giving the Democrats more ideas on how to tax the hell out of us ...... (sigh)
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:54:38 PM PST
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: Yaelle
Mitch McConnell in the press conference, live right now, just used the phrase "the American People would storm the Capitol", in reference to the US people being 100%, unanimously against it, and if there is no ammendment process. "The American People are asking us to stop this bill."
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:55:28 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(1945--Japanese SHOCKED at Emperor not bowed to; 2009--Americans SHOCKED at Emperor overbowed to)
To: RebelTXRose
This is a vote to say ‘Yes, let’s bring it out of committee and onto the Senate floor for a full-blown debate.’
But it’s a sham because it takes 60 votes to get it out of committee BUT ONLY 50 VOTES on the Senate floor to PASS IT! So they can debate blah blah blah all they want, it’s all a show and at the end of it the dems will simply vote it in with 50 votes.
Goodbye America. Hello AmeriKa.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:56:53 PM PST
by
Wrightclick
(I refuse to suffer the socialist mediocrity of a Pringles Chip.)
To: kristinn
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
Thomas Jefferson
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:57:31 PM PST
by
MajorThomas
(Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
To: MozarkDawg
They will defeat the bill if it means taxpayer funding for killing the unborn. The truth of the matter so far is we have been shafted at every turn, I do not expect the process to change. With corrupt politicians (both parties) in charge, to expect things to break our way is a fantasy. We are being set up again.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:57:56 PM PST
by
The Cajun
(Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
To: Springfield Reformer
Enjoy the kabuki. Prepare for survival.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:58:26 PM PST
by
roses of sharon
(A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
To: Logic n' Reason
To: faucetman
Please quit spreading your false information. If you listened at all to any of the Conservative Senators this week on talk radio you would know this is an important vote. Now is where they needed to stop it. Now.
To: AmericanInTokyo
Mitch McConnell in the press conference, live right now, just used the phrase "the American People would storm the Capitol"I'm off work all next week and I wonder how many others are? Let's go storm the capital and find out.
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posted on
11/21/2009 12:58:49 PM PST
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: paul revere is riding
If Lieberman goes with the Republicans they don’t have the votes! Unless there is a Republican voting for this cloture!
To: Williams
Landrieu will be gone this time. Landrieu's not up until 2014.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:00:29 PM PST
by
Christian4Bush
(2010 and 2012 cannot get here soon enough.)
To: usconservative
piece of shit Schumer is now speaking and quoting from Teddy Kennedy.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:01:20 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(1945--Japanese SHOCKED at Emperor not bowed to; 2009--Americans SHOCKED at Emperor overbowed to)
To: roses of sharon
The ugly stuff hits right away in terms of higher premiums and taxes and a stalled economy and no jobs. There will be a severe price to pay for these traitorous Communists in the Democrat Party.
To: tallyhoe
Unless there is a Republican voting for this cloture! Earlier in this thread, someone posted that Fox News reported that Dirty Harry Reid had the 60 votes for cloture.
I posted that if true, it means either Lieberman or Snowe caved. My vote was on Snowe. She's gonna flip to the Democrats, she's been promised a high power chairmanship somewhere, but that's just my guess.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:02:06 PM PST
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: tallyhoe
Unless there is a Republican voting for this cloture! Earlier in this thread, someone posted that Fox News reported that Dirty Harry Reid had the 60 votes for cloture.
I posted that if true, it means either Lieberman or Snowe caved. My vote was on Snowe. She's gonna flip to the Democrats, she's been promised a high power chairmanship somewhere, but that's just my guess.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:02:10 PM PST
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: usconservative
A dem senator has already called for a tax on ‘rich’ Americans to pay for the Afghan war.
And I assure you Arrrnnoooollldd didn’t get the idea to steal 10% from everyone’s paycheck by reading about it here.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:02:19 PM PST
by
Carley
(OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
To: vaudine
To bring it for debate, they must have 60 votes. After debate, they vote up or downThey also have to vote to END debate, which take 60 votes.
I'll have to get some popcorn when I'm out later.
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posted on
11/21/2009 1:02:32 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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