[Nervous Tick]

>> I now call it a fraud.

Another point: hoaxes don’t have a profit motive, whereas frauds usually involve $$$$$MONEY$$$$$.

That’s what Global Warmism is all about... MONEY fraud of breathtaking proportion never before seen in the history of mankind.

[bereanway]

I agree that money was huge in this, but I believe it goes beyond even that motivation. This is about global control of private property and the means of production, or at least a step in that direction. Of course money plays an enormous role in achieving that goal.

To me what is scary about this whole episode is how far an obvious fraud can be advanced when you've got just a few properly connected individuals pulling the strings. To you and I and many others this was apparent but many supposedly intelligent people bought this thing hook, line and sinker.

If AGW is killed what will be the next great deception to appear on the scene?

[GOPJ]

Another point: hoaxes don’t have a profit motive, whereas frauds usually involve $$$$$MONEY$$$$$.

If profit motive make it's a fraud - it's officially a fraud - those scammers were hauling in the big bucks.