[babygene]

“The energy provided by our sun has kept the second law of thermodynamics at bay within our local solar system so far.”

Assuming the creator created the universe and not just the earth and the people on it, then the “system” would be the whole universe. No?

[GovernmentShrinker]

The system is the whole universe, period (including parts we may not know exist). You don’t have to assume anything about a creator. There is an “everything” system, even if we can’t locate its limits. And the fact that there is order *anywhere* in that system, means that order has to have ceom into being somehow. And the 2nd law doesn’t provide any means for order to come into existence in the first place.

[RC one]

The universe is a thermodynamic system. Within this greater system, there are smaller systems, solar systems for example. The presence of our sun provides the necessary energy to overcome the forces of the second law of thermodynamics on our planet and, as such, life is able to progress in a direction of increasing order despite the fact that the universe is still moving in the direction of greater disorder. It takes energy to overcome entropy.