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To: milwguy
I would like nothing more than for this to be the nail in the AGW fraud, but I doubt it will be . Several reasons:

1.The American mass media will ignore this story, or (if forced to cover it because of other countries' freer presses) they'll downplay it, hint that the emails are fakes, etc.

2.Most Americans get their news from ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC/CNN/(God help us) Jon Stewart's Daily Show etc. If these ignore or downplay it, it didn't happen.

3.If FOX ignores, it changes nothing. If FOX covers it, it changes nothing, because the obamabots call it FAUX news and ASSume it slants everything rightward, while the mainstream media is perfectly fair, balanced, and neutral.

4.Too much money is at stake (I'm talking about such "cures" as cap and trade, carbon credits, carbon trading, etc, if they're implemented).This money would go to the scientists who play along, the governments that tax, the NGOs that are to administer the anti AGW bodies, and to Third World countries full of melanin enhanced people. The money would be taken overwhelmingly from the working and middle class of countries in which the majority of the population (for now) is melanin deficient. This last is reason enough for the PTB to adore the AGW Fraud : It would make those racistsexistxenophobichomophobicneanderthals suffer the most.

5.The AGW myth is the key to enslaving humanity: That is the real point of cap and trade, huge tax increases, the Tobin tax (on free travel) carbon credits, the need for "extra governmental agencies" to oversee the machinery against "climate change"...No way will the would be enslavers of mankind allow anything to take away their power, right when it's in their grasp.

6.True Believers have too much of their self esteem wrapped up in believing in AGW. Look online at the crap posted about it: Those who believe in it truly believe that their belief proves they are smarter, better educated, and more caring than those who are "deniers". This also bosters antiAmericanism among European true believers. They WANT AGW to be true so they can go on feeling superior-they would be devastated to allow this to be taken away. If they even hear about this (see points1-3), they'll call the e mails spoofs, etc.

(Aristotle described all non Greeks as "natural slaves", because they willingly gave their freedom up to absolute monarchs. He believed Greeks therefore had a right if not a duty to enslave all mankind(sort of how moslems arrogate that right today). But even Aristotle thought that the "barbarians" didn't want to be slaves, and would fight back-he never imagined there would be such a thing as Volunteer Slaves. And that is precisely what the AGW True Believers are : volunteer slaves who WANT to give up their money and their freedom to 'save the planet', because it would make them feel good about themselves. )

14 posted on 11/20/2009 9:06:48 AM PST by kaylar
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To: kaylar

You have some good points, but I’m more optimistic than you, for the simple fact that Global Warmism is *already* beginning to unravel. This just breaks a few more strands in a yarn that’s already tenuous.

By the way: press and government may ignore this more or less successfully, but it’s going to be tough for ACADEMICS to sweep it under the rug. Not impossible — but quite difficult. This sort of thing is embarrassment of nuclear proportions to academia. Continuing to embrace fraud when the cards are on the table in full public view is a career-killer.

Note that Ward Churchill was not brought down by his poisonous ideology, but by PLAGIARISM. And do you recall Michael Bellesiles, the darling of the anti-gun crowd, and his downfall due to academic dishonesty?

FRegards


16 posted on 11/20/2009 9:16:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: kaylar
Volunteer Slaves. And that is precisely what the AGW True Believers are : volunteer slaves who WANT to give up their money and their freedom to 'save the planet', because it would make them feel good about themselves. )

They will give up their money and freedoms only in exchange for you losing yours. Leftist envy is mostly about destroying what you have rather than obtaining it for themselves. Leftists are useful idiots for those that lust for power.

33 posted on 11/20/2009 10:19:07 AM PST by Reeses
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