Posted on 11/20/2009 1:39:35 AM PST by jsh3180
CO2 is, by definition, a greenhouse gas...but a very poor one.
One of my “side” hobbies is Astronomy. I came across a page where someone had calculated what it would take to increase Mars’ temperature (and eventually oxygen) to atmosphere to make it habitable. Mars is 95% CO2, but very thin, but still more CO2 total mass than Earth has...yet it’s bitter cold.
Adding enough N2 and O2 to make an earth-like atmosphere that would consist of 80% N2, 19.4% O2, and 0.6% CO2(assuming it could be done) warmed the planet up a lot more than doubling CO2 but adding nothing else. Furthermore, the N2/O2 atmosphere only warmed less than a degree even doubling the CO2 from there from 0.6% to 1.2%...
In other words, the THICKNESS of the atmosphere had a LOT more effect than the composition. Obviously this is all speculative, and based on modeling...
If this is all true, then increasing Earth’s CO2 from 0.29% to 0.35% can’t have more than a minimal effect, IMHO.
gore is a bum p
Yep.
Yep.
The MSM wont touch this with a ten foot pole.The MSM wont touch this with a ten foot pole.The silence will be deafening. And make no mistake...the people who stand to benefit from the global warming scam are going to go after whoever obtained this data, whoever displays the data and whoever publishes or speaks out on the data.The MSM wont touch this with a ten foot pole.
They are going to go tooth and nail. There are trillions of potential dollars tied up in this, and a lot of people stand to make a lot of money.
I admit that normally I would like to see the hands cut off of computer hackers and see them put into stocks, preferably in front of a large computer oriented trade show.
But liberals have learned the power of computers and the Internet, and have been using it to advance their socialist and Marxist agendas. Global warming legislation has the potential to turn us into a third world country. We are being attacked, and need to fight back.
Plus, attacking global warming is the equivalent of attacking religion. How this story progresses should be both interesting and illustrative.
...and Drudge is silent. I liked him better when he had to actually try.
Does that mean that Al Gore will be investigated and hauled away for scamming so many people and getting very rich?
I will pass it on when I get home. the News is not showing up in the normal Techie websites, but it will.
How clever of them.
Not.
Typical liberalism. Let’s change the definitions or the words, and that will change the facts.
(from HotAir)http://www.climateaudit.org/
Ed, one of the commenters over at Climate Audit says if you follow the money, it leads to Soros. I dont have time to verify the accuracy of that, but you might want to look into it.
mrfixit on November 20, 2009 at 9:22 AM
I believe we are at war, and even if the exact identity and nature of the enemy is not well understood by many...the fact that global warming legislation is the camel nose in the tent to unified global regulation is just one part of the issue.
The other part is that global warming legislation will push our country over the edge, especially when we are forced to swallow it, and places like China and India have no intention of hobbling their own economies.
And someone stands to profit from that.
NPR: Climate Change Skeptics Pounce On E-Mails Hackers Got From U.K. Scientists' Files:
There's a storm brewing on the Web over e-mails that hackers got hold of in which some scientists at one of the world's leading research centers say things such as the need to "hide the decline" in data about temperatures. Skeptics who have doubts about whether humans are contributing to global warming are pouncing on the revelations.The Register, UK is also covering it.As The Wall Street Journal's Environmental Capital blog says, "this should get interesting."
What is also deliciously ironic is that liberals gleefully love to disparage Nixon for keeping the records which they were able to get their hands on.
If true, these dufuses were actually stupid enough to keep emails essentially saying “GET RID OF THE INCRIMINATING EMAILS THAT SHOW WE FUDGED AND MANIPULATED DATA! AND TELL SO-AND-SO TO GET RID OF HIS TOO!”
Too bad irony is generally lost on liberals.
It’s about time and considering we paid for all of this “research”, any comments on this being criminal should be reserved for the ones that concealed the data.
Hey Veeram and TheDentist, check this thread out...:)
Hmm. We’ll see. This ought to be interesting.
How are they going to break this to all those school children who cried for the poor Polar Bears?
They will ignore it at their own peril.
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