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To: metmom
It is a reducto ad absurdum.

If you think I am not “really” a Christian because I accept evolution and/or am going to hell; then reducing that argument to the absurd, the POPE isn't a “real” Christian and is going to hell with me.

I am not appealing to the Popes “authority” to settle a debate point. I am not saying ‘evolution is true because the Pope agrees with it’ or that ‘my interpretation of the Bible is correct because the Pope agrees with it’. THAT would be an actual “appeal to authority”.

And once again your only argument is an ACTUAL appeal to Biblical authority, and your supposed authority in correctly interpreting it.

All you can do is say ‘if you disagree with what I interpret the Bible to say, you are calling God a liar’. Sure, me and the Pope, we think God is a liar.

And once again this is NOT a scientific argument against evolution.

253 posted on 11/20/2009 2:55:29 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
If you think I am not “really” a Christian because I accept evolution and/or am going to hell; then reducing that argument to the absurd, the POPE isn't a “real” Christian and is going to hell with me.

Why would that be absurd? If I really believed that anyone who believed in evolution wasn't really a Christian and was going to hell because of that belief, then it doesn't matter who you use, including the pope. You're working on the presumption that he IS a Christian by default or something with the kind of reasoing that if he isn't a Christian and won't make it, then nobody is.

And that's not a scientific argument in support of evolution.

All you can do is say ‘if you disagree with what I interpret the Bible to say, you are calling God a liar’. Sure, me and the Pope, we think God is a liar.And once again this is NOT a scientific argument against evolution.

I never claimed that belief in the Bible is a *scientific* argument against evolution. But the truth is the truth. It doesn't have to qualify as *scientific* to demonstrate that something is wrong.

The only point of evos making that demand is to restrict what they will or will not accept as evidence to disprove the ToE.

And as it stands at the present, evos are so dogmatic in their belief in the ToE that it is beyond their comprehension that any evidence would ever be able to disprove it. They automatically disallow anything that would reflect negatively on it.

The ToE will never be disproved to an evos satisfaction because they won't let it be disproved.

Everyone else has an open mind.

255 posted on 11/20/2009 3:17:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: allmendream

[[Sure, me and the Pope, we think God is a liar]]

do you think the word of God is the Holy Spirit inspired word of God? Or do you think it’s simply a collection of ‘good advice’ by ‘wise men’ about ‘how to live’? Do you htink the scenes i nthe bible were actual scenes of history? Or do you think they were fairy tales meant for instruction? Do you beleive Christ was the Son of God who died o nthe cross and rose fro mthe dead? Or do you think a ‘wise man who did good deeds’ was put to death, and his body hid to look like he had risen fro mthe dead? Do you beleive God made Adam and Eve fro mthe dust of the Ground, fully formed, and breathed life into their nostrils? Or do you doubt God’s word, and htink soemthign esle? Do you beleive Christ performed the miracles that He did? Or do you think there was mass hysteria and peopel were just tricked into seeing somethign that didn’t really happen?

Let’s get specific here-


270 posted on 11/20/2009 7:14:45 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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