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To: allmendream
““What is Cladistics
Lynne M. Clos
.........Derived characters are advanced traits which only appear in some members of the group. Cladistics is based on the assumption that the appearance of derived characters gives clues to evolutionary relationships. In our example, a derived character for some mammals might be loss of the tail, which occurs in the great apes and man. It is assumed that loss of the tail occurred only once, in the common ancestor of apes and man, and that none of us has one because we inherited that trait from our common ancestor. Thus if mammals are separated into groups which do and which don't have a tail, shown by a fork on the evolutionary diagram (cladogram), this represents the point at which a new species evolved which didn't have a tail. Man and the great apes are assumed to have descended from this species (which may or may not remain undiscovered at the present time).”

No DNA necessary, as this NON-CREATIONIST POINTS OUT.

Darwinists not Creationists must misrepresent science out of necessity. See your own citation.

Tell me again about those courses you say you took. No, don't, I said I've no more time for your erroneous assertions and I don't.

226 posted on 11/20/2009 12:59:54 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Except she didn't point out that no DNA was necessary, that is your misrepresentation.

She is explaining what a “Clade” is for someone who, as she explains in the introductory paragraph, might be confused by all that scientific jargon. Nowhere does she say YOUR idiotic contention that the groups are both formed and confirmed by the same morphological traits, or that no DNA analysis was necessary.

Moreover your source is this...

http://www.fossilnews.com/1996/cladistics.html

A laymans guide to ‘making it simple’. Do you often base the current status of a science on your own misunderstanding of what a scientists says when she is trying to simplify something for the layman?

That is typical of creationists. All they can do is take something out of context in an effort to mischaracterize the actual science.

Modern cladograms are not both based upon and confirmed by morphological features, they are based upon a shared evolutionary characteristic and CONFIRMED by DNA analysis, which is, despite your assertions otherwise, not subjective.

231 posted on 11/20/2009 1:18:57 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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