Isn’t uniformitarianism declaring that all changes occur in a slow uniform pace? Whatever we see happening now can be extrapolated for all periods of time, right?!
Not based in reality but that’s OK since it fits w/ the evolutionary paradigm.
Nope, lets assume we have periods that are 10 times that amount and periods that are 1/10th that amount, hell even 100 times that amount.. you still don’t get to 6000 years, its laughable. My statements didn’t require absolute uniformity, they pointed out that if you had averaged movements of the highest amounts ever seen, its still 14+ MILLION YEARS.. some years you might get many times this amount of movement and other years likely fractions of it... but if you use the higest ever recorded to date as the average, you still get 14 Million+ years. Even by a factor of 10 you are at 1.4 Million years, hell a factor of 100, is still 140,000 years.. there is no way you get to the foolish earth is 6000 years old nonsense.
I’m using the largest movement recorded to date and extrapolating it out.. if you want to talk uniformity, you’d have to average that 2.25 inches per month against all the months over the last 100+ years of directly observable data, and millions of years of extrapolated data, we have data on the rift valley movements of micrometers per year of exact and estimates. None show any sort of plate movement anywhere on the earth that measures anywhwere close to 100 miles + per month.
Hell even if we have movements 10 or 100 times the largest amount recorded for periods of time, you still can’t get plates moving from rift to subduction over thousands of miles in MONTHS.. its laughable.
I’m actually given your argument the benefit of the doubt by using this first observed highest ever recording the average over time. When in reality the movement over time on average has been much much smaller than this when averaged out.
Plates don’t move thousands of miles in months, lets imagine if we will the forces along the subduction zone if a plate was SUBDUCTING at a rate of 100 miles per month.. which is the rate the theory you are trying to defend would require to move from rift to subduction in MONTHS even over the shortest distances between undersea rifts and continental plates.
Sorry, but there is no way you get to a few thousand year old earth by any reasonable analysis of any known observable facts.
Indeed, there is so much catastrophism being uncovered these days, one wonders what uniformitarianism even means any more.
LOL...pretty soon the evos will probably be claiming that geological processes are uniformly catastrophic (hehe :o)
Second sentence okay, first sentence wrong. We don't see "all changes occur in a slow uniform pace" now, so there's no reason to assume they did in the past. There were probably 35-mile-long cracks that opened a couple of inches in a matter of days 10 thousand, ten million, or a hundred million years ago. That really doesn't get you any closer to thousands-of-mile-long cracks opening at a rate of meters per second, like the "surfing continents" idea requires.
No, uniformitarianism does state that what we see now can be extrapolated over periods of time, but that doesn't declare a 'slow, uniform pace' be the only method of change. That is only one tiny fraction of the whole. Some events we see now are rapid as well. The core concept of uniformitarianism is actually related to physical laws. Some people are still hung up on some 18th century sayings from people like Hutton and Playfair. The concept of 'only slow and uniform' goes back to the Persian geologist, Avicenna. However, just as our knowledge of Physics has evolved over time, the uniformity concept has evolved.
The four principles of unformatarianism are:
None of these principles limit changes to 'slow, uniform pace'.