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To: presidio9
Seems reasonable to me. Having health insurance generally goes along with having a job. It's an indicator of a sense of personal responsibility.

People who don't have that are generally less likely to take care of themselves and as a result to be in poor health and consequently in worse condition and less survivable when they show up.

It's and indicator of the nature of the patient, not the health care provider.

63 posted on 11/17/2009 1:05:27 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yep, and people with insurance (I believe it said “commercial insurance” so they were ignoring medicare/medicaid and state-run programs), tend to live in better areas, and have better hospitals.

Which means that, if you simply gave the people insurance, it wouldn’t help — they’d still go to the same poor hospitals, and get the same treatment, and have the same outcomes.

They didn’t adjust for other factors. My guess is that if they had compared within each ER, they’d find no correlation, and if they compared the wealth of the neighborhood where the ER was located, they’d find the disparity there.

In fact, they probably KNOW that, but needed to hide the facts to perpetuate the lie that people are dying because they don’t have insurance.

Of course, I really think people DO die more if they don’t have insurance, and some people might well be dying because they don’t have insurance. But that’s because they simply don’t care about themselves enough to spend some money on their health care.


85 posted on 11/17/2009 1:48:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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