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He says it is a good model. That is correct. It is a model that we can now look at and see what we like and don't like about it. It is good as a model, but it is not necessarily good as a model for the nation to adopt.

The primary requirement the people of MA were wanting was a system that insured everyone. The primary thing Romney wanted was to keep the operation in the private sector.
Romney said they wanted to make it cost effective, but that is not where all the effort went in getting it started. He thinks it needs more work on that.

However, I agree with you. He had better start saying what he has reservations on, or he owns it.

I think the Republicans and conservatives can't just say what is wrong with the Demo plan or the MA plan. They have to say what their solution to the problem is. I like some of the ideas we have been hearing: tort reform, competition across borders, health care savings accounts that you get to keep if you don't use it up, much reduced mandates, availability of catastrophic insurance. I think if illegal aliens show up at ERs, they should be treated and immediately sent back to their country of origin. I think if women (and their sperm donors) throw themselves on the mercy of the system for abortions, the system has the right to tie their tubes (both partners). I think the uninsured get to abuse the system only once, and then they are required to carry insurance. Etc.

Do you always make things up?

ROMNEY WANTED SOCIALIZED MEDICINE BECAUSE ROMNEY RAPES COMPANIES
and THEY LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

Yup, your private little piggie Romney did it for .... himself.

PROOF RomneyCARE is a Disaster (and he is clueless)

“Republicans warn: Rationing medicine has already begun
But in a joint opinion piece called "Govt.-Run Health Care Isn't the Answer," published
in the online version of The Advocate, a leading homosexual magazine, Sen. Tom
Coburn, R-Okla., and GOProud's Christopher R. Barron warned the homosexual
community that the Ryan White CARE Act has already demonstrated how government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”

“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”

“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”

“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”

“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”

"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “

"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “

"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “

Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.
Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."

"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"

“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”

“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “

"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."

"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“

"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"

"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.”

"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"

"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”

"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"

"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“

"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

"Romney’s mistreatments a sick man, as Gov. Mitt Romney meets a medical marijuana patient"

He says it is a good model.

Which is a big part of what is so very wrong with Romney. He thinks big government can actually offer solutions better than the private sector..

That is correct. It is a model that we can now look at and see what we like and don't like about it. It is good as a model, but it is not necessarily good as a model for the nation to adopt.

RomneyCare can be tweaked until doomsday. It'll still be a big government "solution". It'll still take money from earners to pay for people who don't earn. It's still intrusive, invasive and ineffective. It is still stealing from workers. Dress it up however you like. Stealing is stealing. Tweaking it will never make it right.

The primary requirement the people of MA were wanting was a system that insured everyone. The primary thing Romney wanted was to keep the operation in the private sector.

You say "the people of MA", as if all of those people wanted this. Did they ask everyone who pays taxes to support it if they wanted it? Or are people working hard and having their taxes taken to support those who don't pay into the system? Hint: I know the answer to this one, as one of my best friends lives in Massachusetts and is being taxed out of his home to pay for this junk.

RomneyCare is not "in the private sector". It's funded on the back of taxpayers, and those backs are getting close to breaking.

Romney said they wanted to make it cost effective, but that is not where all the effort went in getting it started. He thinks it needs more work on that.

Sigh.... Like all liberals, Romney thinks that Nirvana is just one legislative tweak or new law in the future.