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To: devere
"You sound like every other gun-control freak I’ve run into. There’s always some “special” reason why people in their locale simply can’t be trusted with firearms." 

And, in opposition...you sound just like any other ignorant civilian who never served on in the military.

You can spout all your "2nd Amendment" rights all you want but in the military you have to be realistic also.

We have to deal with ex-gangbangers and personnel who don't have but should have an IQ three points more than a fork....but occasionally don't.

Just like in the civilian world...not everyone should be able to carry.  I'm not opposed to military bases running comprehensive courses for concealed and carry and the individual being signed off by his/her chain of command, but we have the same freaks you have out there on the streets as you see daily.  We don't need some AH popping caps on his 1st SGT because he doesn't want to do police call.....

Cure your ignorance....join the military and War Against Terror.....

28 posted on 11/14/2009 5:20:57 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: Shamrock-DW

“Just like in the civilian world...not everyone should be able to carry.”

Right now no body but the military police can carry. And 13 soldiers just paid with their lives for that Clinton-initiated stupidity.

But I suppose that actual results don’t matter to you.


29 posted on 11/14/2009 6:50:23 PM PST by devere
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To: Shamrock-DW

“We have to deal with ex-gangbangers and personnel who don’t have but should have an IQ three points more than a fork....but occasionally don’t.”

Golly, I thought you were America’s best, and you think your fellow soldiers are the dregs of society ... I think not.

In the whole State of Vermont, chock full of Liberal morons and other disreputable types, any non-felon can carry a gun without any permit or training. And the crime rate is 47th out of the 50 states.

Gun control enthusiasts always have a reason why the people THEY know shouldn’t be eligible to carry. So far Vermont has survived allowing self-defense, and so would the US military.

“join the military and War Against Terror.....”

Haven’t you heard? The “War on Terror” has been cancelled.


30 posted on 11/14/2009 7:16:34 PM PST by devere
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To: Shamrock-DW
My proposal would to be let anyone with state issued CHL/CHP carry concealed. Otherwise anyone over say E-4 or 5, W-2, or O-1 respectively could carry openly, no license required or special permission required. If those folks can't be trusted, they shouldn't be wearing the uniform either. That would eliminate all the young hot bloods, they wouldn't' be old enough for the CHL, nor would the have enough rank.

There would still be sufficient armed "good guys" in most situations to handle these sorts of events, even with multiple assailants.

But that said, Joe Snuffy gangbanger isn't any more likely to obey the "no guns" rules than he is the rules against assaulting his 1st Sgt, or his platoon LT.

Therein lies the fallacy of gun control. It doesn't control the ones who need controlling, while providing them with unarmed victims.

Captain El Gato USAFR(ret).

36 posted on 11/15/2009 12:40:58 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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