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To: Tramonto
Your position is that Intelligent Design is true but not scientific.

That IS NOT my position. Intelligent design is not supposed to reference a deity. I do not believe that biological systems were "designed" at all. I know there is no scientific basis for thinking design is involved. If there was, some ID proponent would have offered it.

73 posted on 11/19/2009 11:56:12 AM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: HospiceNurse
That IS NOT my position. Intelligent design is not supposed to reference a deity. I do not believe that biological systems were "designed" at all. I know there is no scientific basis for thinking design is involved. If there was, some ID proponent would have offered it.

You stated that God created everything. You also wrote that biological systems were not designed at all. So, you believe that God created biological systems but didn't design them at all? How is this possible? Wouldn't God Who created everything qualify as an intelligent Designer?

Like most devout followers of darwin who also claim to be followers of Christ, your position on evolution and ID doesn't add up. Its illogical to believe that God created everything but designed nothing.

74 posted on 11/19/2009 5:04:06 PM PST by Tramonto (Live Free or Die)
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To: HospiceNurse; Tramonto

You’re putting us on, right? Do you honestly believe that no one has offered any evidence of ID? Well, let me offer you some very strong evidence right now.

We don’t have a clue about how the first (or any) living cell came to be. Not only that, but mathematicians have shown that it is extremely unlikely to have happened by random chance. Furthermore, experiments intended to demonstrate that a living cell could have formed by random chance have completely failed.

Yet ID deniers insist, against all mathematical analysis and experimental results, that the first living cell formed by random chance. Forget for now that their claim is “unfalsifiable” and therefore “unscientific,” according to their own arguments against ID. When pressed, they claim that, given the age and size of the universe, “anything can happen.” But they do not understand combinatorics. If every cubic yard of the universe was filled monkeys typing randomly for 100 times the age of the universe, they would still be extremely unlikely to type the first page of Macbeth correctly.

If you saw the words “Hey, you ID deniers are bozos” written on the sands of a beach, would you claim that it got there due to random winds, with no intelligent design? Of course not. Why? Because common sense says that it could not have happened by random chance. The same reasoning applies a billion times more to the simplest living cell, which is perhaps more complex than all of man’s technology.

Quit parroting nonsense about ID, and start thinking for yourself.


75 posted on 11/19/2009 6:00:41 PM PST by RussP
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