Posted on 11/12/2009 8:13:50 PM PST by greatdefender
UK
We think this is extreme, now. If we are not vigilant our children will think this guy got off easy.
Absolute insanity.
I will never, and it breaks my heart to say it, but I will never ever set a foot in England.
Such absurdity explains why revolution happens.
This paper is the U.K. equivalent to the Onion? Right? There is no way that this is reality...
This is the exact future that Obama and the Democrats have planned for us.
Mr Clarke's own actions made him liable for prosecution in this case - it's not as simple and straightforward as the newspaper articles are making out. By phoning the police for advice as to what he should do with an object he had found, without mentioning that the item he was asking about was a firearm, he helped create this legal mess. If he hadn't phoned them, or if he told them it was a gun he was talking about, he wouldn't be in this situation at the moment. I think the law is still too strict - but it's not as simplistic as this article suggests.
This is a strict liability offence, and the court has no discretion as to whether or not they find him guilty. There are reasons under common law why such things as strict liability offences exist - if they did not, you'd never be able to prosecute most cases of negligence, dangerous driving, speeding, operating unsafe equipment - because the defendent could simply argue that they didn't intend to do anything wrong and escape penalty.
In terms of the claims that Mr Clarke faces a mandatory minimum sentence of five years - there is a mandatory minimum sentence (five years) but the Judge is allowed to vary that in "exceptional circumstances." If he doesn't in this case, I, for one, would be outraged - because that is the point where he does have discretion.
Yet another clear example of the difference between a citizen, and a subject.
"The evidence before the court is incontrovertible, there's no need for the jury to retire
In all my years of Judging I have never heard before,
Of someone more deserving of the fullest penalties of law."
And I've been in courts where I really could imagine the judge uttering those lines.
A sad devolution of a once great nation.
Just when you think you’ve heard the STUPIDEST damn thing on the planet, and that there can’t POSSIBLY be anything STUPIDER being done by the courts and judiciary, somebody comes up with something like this.
I was at NCO Academy with the USAF in England back in 1990. It wasn’t anywhere near as psychotic as it is today. Its political class must’ve all caught Mad Cow Disease.
Kafka.
“Mr Clarke’s own actions made him liable for prosecution in this case”
This appalling nonsense should never have been brought to court, and the UK rightly stands condemned here as an uncivilized country. Boycott the UK in every way! If you believe in those stupid fascist gun laws please go live there.
With respects to my British family, I have to say that this is lunatic and worthy of a police state ...
I suppose a responsible citizen would just walk by if he saw a weapon lying in a playground with children playing in the vicinity. Just get on your cell phone and ring the bobbies. That’s right.
As I will (sadly) never set foot in England again.
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