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Best ever find of soft tissue (muscle and blood) in a fossil (evos claim it is 18 mya!!!)
CMI ^ | November 11, 2009 | Carl Wieland

Posted on 11/11/2009 9:29:38 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: ColdWater; GodGunsGuts; Jim Robinson

How does one do a stealth post? You’re acting as if you don’t know after doing one? More deceit.

This one. The one you posted in white as if it were blank and have to highlight to see what’s said.

Here at this link....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2375095/posts?page=42#42

It was posted as if it were your own words and then when asked about it, you answered it as if it were your own words and never attributed it to JR.


141 posted on 11/11/2009 2:59:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdWater

You are not the measure of my belief in God.

I don’t care what you think my *total belief* in God is and it’s not subject to your standard of measure.


142 posted on 11/11/2009 3:02:05 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
And trying to blackmail me into being baited isn't going to fly either

Getting to you to declare your total belief in God is 'trying to blackmail you into being baited'?

143 posted on 11/11/2009 3:02:09 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: metmom; ColdWater

What were your motives for doing this, CW?


144 posted on 11/11/2009 3:03:57 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom
It was posted as if it were your own words

I guess you missed the quote and it was hardly stealth. I was a totally white post and I have done that with GGG before. Hardly stealth since it is in my tagline.

and then when asked about it, you answered it as if it were your own words and never attributed it to JR.

No I didn't answer it as if it were my own words. When GGG asked me what my purpose here was, I gave my own words. Nothing like the JR tagline quote.

145 posted on 11/11/2009 3:06:56 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
What were your motives for doing this, CW?

Doing what? Be specific.

146 posted on 11/11/2009 3:07:42 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: freedumb2003
"There is no such thing as a “Darwinist.” There are those who understand science and attribute the early genesis of what is now The Theory of Evolution to Darwin."

That is your opinion, but you are mistaken. Darwinists are real, they are in very high positions in science, they unfairly hate creationism passionately, and that hatred has nothing to do with science.

As far as creationism having “evidence”

The origin of all species from one has absolutely no evidence in science whatsoever. How can you believe in it, and then say creationism has no scientific evidence?

"Your understanding of science is based in the depths of your apologetics and Luddite folklore, not on the actual practice."

What part of my beliefs do you consider Luddite folkore? I certainly hope you don't mean the book of Genesis. My understanding of science is based on evidence found using the scientific method, not the delusions of a man who visited an island and saw some birds.

There is no science behind the theory of the origin of all species from one. It is a religious belief held by Darwinists who currently hold science by the throat. When you say you believe in it, your beliefs are based on religion/philosophy and not science.
147 posted on 11/11/2009 3:09:17 PM PST by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: ColdWater

You’re being ignored.


148 posted on 11/11/2009 3:11:02 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: RoadGumby; GodGunsGuts
"21 And God created great whales,"

Funny you should quote that. The word whale does not appear in the bible. Genesis references "Great Creatures of the sea" which in the duplicate thread yesterday GGG swore was some kind of marine dinosaur...LOL

149 posted on 11/11/2009 3:11:18 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: metmom
GGG: Is your tagline a quote from Jim Robinson?

Everyone knows it is. He attributes it to JR upthread, in posts 69 and 123.

That removes your argument that I was trying to take credit for it.

150 posted on 11/11/2009 3:11:48 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

Well for starters, why did you parade Jim Robinson’s unattributed quote around in your tagline from thread to thread? And why did you post that quote in all white in your replies so that nobody could see it?


151 posted on 11/11/2009 3:11:52 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“The end result was a total of eight collagen peptides and 149 amino acids from four different samples, sequences that held up when multiple validation steps were performed, including comparisons with synthetic peptides using a spectral comparison algorithm and statistical evaluation.””

I imagine that the irony of you posting this excellent piece of scientific endeavor by the very people who are fully paid up members of the “anti-science Temple of Darwin religion” isn´t registering with right now, yeah?

I think they deserve a pat of the back for such great work. Finding intact peptides and amino acids of such age is amazing. Just imagine what knowledge we can unveil in the future. It´s truly exciting.

What it ain´t is soft musculatur or blood vessels. Keep digging....or should I say keep lying for God.


152 posted on 11/11/2009 3:13:15 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: count-your-change
You’re being ignored.

If you are ignoring me, why do you keep posting to me? Illogical!

153 posted on 11/11/2009 3:13:29 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Natural Law; RoadGumby

Hey RoadGumby, do me a favor and read Job 40 and 41 closely, and then tell me if anything but a dino matches those descriptions.

All the best—GGG


154 posted on 11/11/2009 3:14:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law
Funny you should quote that.

Not an accident that I quoted that.

155 posted on 11/11/2009 3:18:30 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Well for starters, why did you parade Jim Robinson’s unattributed quote around in your tagline from thread to thread? And why did you post that quote in all white in your replies so that nobody could see it?

To get your attention?

156 posted on 11/11/2009 3:19:44 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Which dinosaur?

19 Out of his mouth go flaming torches; sparks of fire leap forth. 20 Out of his nostrils comes forth smoke, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. 21 His breath kindles coals, and a flame comes forth from his mouth. 22


157 posted on 11/11/2009 3:23:43 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RoadGumby; GodGunsGuts
"Hey RoadGumby, do me a favor and read Job 40 and 41 closely, and then tell me if anything but a dino matches those descriptions."

Now review the descriptions in the context of a large toothed whale such as a Sperm Whale with a typical parasitic isopod (barnacle) infestation. There are some good images to be found on the internet. Often whales so affected will seek freshwater in rivers and estuaries to kill the parasites. In doing so it could have come into contact with land bound aboriginal peoples with no previous knowledge of marine mammals who might describe them as Job did.

158 posted on 11/11/2009 3:23:56 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: ColdWater
"Well for starters, why did you parade Jim Robinson’s unattributed quote around in your tagline from thread to thread?"

Now you have done it. To GGG, who hasn't displayed a single original thought in his last 10,000 postings, you have committed the ultimate sin. You have used a passage without proper footnoting. If you get spelling and punctuation wrong too he just might have to put a black mark on your permanent record.

159 posted on 11/11/2009 3:27:21 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natufian
==What it ain´t is soft musculatur or blood vessels.

Wrong again, Natufian. Do you never tire of making yourself look silly? All it takes is a brief search on your part to avoid such embarrassment:

"Schweitzer then duplicated her findings with at least three other well-preserved dinosaur specimens, one 80-million-year-old hadrosaur and two 65-million-year-old tyrannosaurs. All of these specimens preserved vessels, cell-like structures, or flexible matrix that resembled bone collagen from modern specimens."

As for the muscles, see the "organically preserved muscle tissue" in the supposedly 18 mya salamander find mentioned in the OP. And if you object because the scientists refer to the salamander as a fossil, keep in mind that the scientists who found the soft tissue, proteins and blood vessels in the T. rex and Hydrosaur referred to them as fossils as well.

160 posted on 11/11/2009 3:29:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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