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US Judge Bans Christian Car Number Plate [Revolt America, Revolt!]
Telegraph(UK) ^ | November 10th, 2009

Posted on 11/10/2009 5:28:09 PM PST by Steelfish

US Judge Bans Christian Car Number Plate

[Pic in URL] A US judge has ordered South Carolina not to issue car number plates that feature a Christian cross in front of a stained glass window along with the slogan "I Believe".

10 Nov 2009

Cameron Currie, the district judge, said the plate, similar to the one pictured, was unconstitutional because it violated the First Amendment. Photo: AP

The southern state's legislature had already approved the licence plate, but Cameron Currie, the district judge, said the plate was unconstitutional because it violated the First Amendment, which requires the separation of church and state.

"Such a law amounts to a state endorsement not only of religion in general, but of a specific sect in particular," Ms Currie wrote. Her ruling also singled out Lt Gov Andre Bauer, who had pushed the bill approving the license plates through the state legislature. Christian advocates tried to get the same license plate approved in Florida, but the bill did not pass that state's lawmaking body.

Mr Bauer wanted to accomplish in South Carolina what had been unsuccessful in Florida, Ms Currie wrote, in order to "gain legislative approval of a specialty plate promoting the majority religion: Christianity. "Whether motivated by sincerely-held Christian beliefs or an effort to purchase political capital with religious coin, the result is the same.

"The statute is clearly unconstitutional and defence of its implementation has embroiled the state in unnecessary (and expensive) litigation." Mr Bauer was not immediately available for comment.

The case was brought by the group Americans United for Separation of Church and State, on behalf of several individuals and Hindu and American-Arab groups.

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1 posted on 11/10/2009 5:28:09 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

The plate doesn’t violate the Constitution, but the Judge’s decision does.


2 posted on 11/10/2009 5:34:39 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Steelfish

How often can I say that .. “I Am So Damn SICK” of the SHIT going on in this country!?

I am not, what you would call a participant in a main stream religion BUT DAMMIT .. There is an all out war against Christians in this country by the very people who can say NOTHING against Islam!

If it had been a Christian who had blown away 13 of our soldiers .. YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS .. The bastards would be screaming from the rooftops!

When will enough be ENOUGH?


3 posted on 11/10/2009 5:36:52 PM PST by plinyelder
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To: Steelfish
The judge is not simply mistaken. She is a power-grabbing liar who knows that she is the one violating the Constitution. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The violation is in prohibiting the free exercise of religion and the freedom of speech on that license plate. Anyone capable of making it into law school knows that "the separation of church and state" is not in the Constitution; if she's actually educated (which is in doubt), then she knows that the phrase comes from Jefferson's Danbury Letter, written after the Bill of Rights and intended only as a campaign promise. These judges seem to think that any candidate's promises are part of the Constitution but that the actual words in the document are not. She disgusts me.

4 posted on 11/10/2009 5:38:18 PM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Steelfish

Currie is a real snotty little elite princess type.


5 posted on 11/10/2009 5:38:37 PM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Steelfish

At the time of the Constitution’s adoption, some states had state sponsored religions, in New England.

This is a state issued license plate, not a Federal one.

The first Amendment restricts Congress from establishing a religious preference—not a State.


6 posted on 11/10/2009 5:38:45 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: plinyelder

The leaders, especially the Christian leaders have failed us. Where’s the outrage? Where are the protests? Marches? No- we march gently into our own gallows.


7 posted on 11/10/2009 5:39:20 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Nuc1

This is just a district judge. No doubt this case will work its way up through circuit court and maybe even up to the Supreme Court. By that time we’ll probably have mag-lev cars!


8 posted on 11/10/2009 5:40:23 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: Steelfish
the First Amendment, which requires the separation of church and state.

It requires nothing of the kind whatsoever.

Any judge named "Ms." somebody, like any female who affects a hyphenated surname (i.e. a "hyphemale"), is almost always a leftist.

9 posted on 11/10/2009 5:41:40 PM PST by hellbender
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To: TurtleUp

The state is NOT compelling the purchase of the license. Allowing these for voluntary purchase is not an official endorsement of religion. This is an extremely secular and unconstitutional decision.


10 posted on 11/10/2009 5:42:01 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: MrDem

I’m telling you this judge is your typical elitist liberal little snot.


11 posted on 11/10/2009 5:44:27 PM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: plinyelder
"How often can I say that .. “I Am So Damn SICK” of the SHIT going on in this country!?"

+1

12 posted on 11/10/2009 5:48:31 PM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Nuc1

So who do we contact?


13 posted on 11/10/2009 5:49:30 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Steelfish
the First Amendment, which requires the separation of church and state.

Writer is a Marxist. And ignorant.

14 posted on 11/10/2009 6:08:15 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Freddd

Full contact info is here:

http://www.scd.uscourts.gov/Judges/distjudge.asp


15 posted on 11/10/2009 6:09:46 PM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Steelfish; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
We've not heard the last of this, I'm sure.

Here's another version of the story from The Palmetto Scoop, a source not on JimRob's no-no list:


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DISTRICT JUDGE SAYS CHRISTIAN LICENSE PLATES VIOLATE 1ST AMENDMENT

You can call it an activist judge making an unfortunate ruling or a victory for First Amendment rights, but U.S. District Judge Cameron Currie Tuesday said South Carolina’s “I Believe” license tag was Unconstitutional.

The federal ruling came after months of arguing over the Christian tags, which feature a cross over a tainted-glass window on a cloudy background with the words “I Believe” written above the license plate number.

The tags were passed by the General Assembly in 2008, but a number of groups including Americans United for Separation of Church and State and American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee sued, saying they were a violation of the First Amendment.

Currie said the amendment enshrines a separation of church and state and that the tag violates that right.

Lt Gov. Andre Bauer, who helped get the tags passed in the State Senate, called it a “freedom of speech issue” and noted the absurd number of tags (more than 100) already available in South Carolina.

But Currie disagreed, even taking a shot at Bauer.

“Whether motivated by sincerely-held Christian beliefs or an effort to purchase political capital with religious coin, the result is the same,” Currie said. “The statute is clearly unconstitutional and defense of its implementation has embroiled the state in unnecessary (and expensive) litigation.”

The ruling, however, will likely be appealed to Fourth District Court of Appeals.


Gotta love that last paragraph.

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16 posted on 11/10/2009 6:15:17 PM PST by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: Steelfish

For those of you pissed off by Currie’s decision, go give her a rating at: http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=825


17 posted on 11/10/2009 6:22:09 PM PST by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: Steelfish

i seem to remember pro-abortion plates... which would be endorsing the religion of death... what’s wrong with promoting Christianity again? it’d only be a problem if it was the ONLY religious plate available.

solution: make plates available for those main religions represented in the state, producing a percentage equal to the local populace

if the area was 90% Christians, 5% agnostic, 3% Jewish, 2% islam, and 1% atheist, then produce the same proportion of custom plates... or allow for special orders and make all available within a timeframe. simple and brings in money to the state.

is this really so complicated?


18 posted on 11/10/2009 6:24:12 PM PST by sten
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To: upchuck

Has SC been invaded by Massholechusetts judges? WTH is going on there?


19 posted on 11/10/2009 6:26:12 PM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: Steelfish
Revelation 18:4

Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

20 posted on 11/10/2009 6:27:52 PM PST by hope
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