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The Ft. Hood Killer - Guilty But Not Evil
Psychology Today ^ | November 7, 2009 | Mark Goulston

Posted on 11/08/2009 6:11:23 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights

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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

LOL! Good way to put it!


121 posted on 11/08/2009 10:33:28 PM PST by floralamiss
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
If you are someone who disagrees with that, then I would suggest you stop reading now.

Why did you include the rest of the article? No one needs to read it.
122 posted on 11/08/2009 10:41:25 PM PST by Brown Deer (4 Google execs are on Obama's staff - YouTube is owned by Google)
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To: LouD

Yes, isn’t that an amazing reach? This sap has leaned so ‘far out’ over the void, his loosey-goosey brain material is running out of his ear. A mind numbing read.


123 posted on 11/08/2009 10:54:18 PM PST by floralamiss
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Evil is evil. Case closed. Psychology is infested with lefties.


124 posted on 11/08/2009 11:14:54 PM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Zeppo

Yeah, they would think that too. Along side with Pol Pot, 9/11 Terrorist, Mao Zedong, Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Fred Phelps, Charles Manson, Lori Drew, etc.


125 posted on 11/08/2009 11:17:55 PM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Well gees, almost every evil regime was on the left. Same goes with terrorism and various mass killers.


126 posted on 11/08/2009 11:18:34 PM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
You would think this fellow would unfurl his expertise for the families of the victims. If there's any likely PTSD cases, it would be them.
127 posted on 11/09/2009 12:43:55 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Not to mention the surviving victims themselves, even though I'm sure they'll receive stress counseling.
128 posted on 11/09/2009 12:51:08 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"This new mission is to avoid re-traumatization at all costs."

How can this MORON have any kind of degree, never mind a doctoral degree allowing him to practice psychiatry??? oh, that's right, well the terrorist had one of those too....

Still, does the wise (sic) author not see a bit of the contradiction in saying that the perp wanted to "avoid re-traumatization at all costs" by going on a frickin' terrorist shooting spree???

The editors of Psychology Today actually publish this babble?

oh, the douchebag who is supposed to "re-traumatized" spent his adult life in medical training and then practice (of some kind, whether he was worth a damn is another question).... and in his "deployment" he most definitely was not going to be in combat as an Army psychiatrist....

no, all early signs are that it all stems from his fanatical jihadist beliefs, plain and simple.

political correctness + psychobabble = more unnecessary deaths and our civilization is being undermined

129 posted on 11/09/2009 1:32:33 AM PST by Enchante (Speak Truth to Power: Hey, Obama, YOU LIE!!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
This Ghoulson character is just one more snake-oil slinging huckster with another book to flog. He's all over the numerous moonbat blogs and "social networking" venues spewing his self-proclaimed "expertise" on PTSD to adoring PC-heads.

Ghoulson's psychobabble has found willing ears since Obama warned the nation not to "jump to conclusions" about poor misunderstood mass murderer Nidal.

This fourth-rate Dr. Phil has sold his professional soul for a handful of silver--while covering the actions of a now-proven Muslim suicide terrorist with a blanket of ersatz "sympathy & understanding."

There's gotta be a law against M.D. like this.


130 posted on 11/09/2009 1:38:44 AM PST by henbane
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I’m glad the author saved me some time with the warning in the third sentence.

What a load.


131 posted on 11/09/2009 2:02:35 AM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: mommyq
It’s crap like this that makes us distrust shrinks.

It's worse than that - Hasan WAS a shrink!

132 posted on 11/09/2009 2:10:17 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Oh. So he is a good man, under stress. The military’s fault. Poor guy. Those victims were just the buffer he needed to work out his stresses. What a shame that the policewoman came in and stopped him. He was EXPRESSING his rage, and there is nothing wrong with that. He’s a good man. Nothing evil about him. No sir.


133 posted on 11/09/2009 2:19:09 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
The measure of a civilization is how it treats those who have hurt it.

This was the writer's first line, and of course he is implying that a true civilization forgives those who hurt it.

But that is not true.

It's one thing for people to forgive each other. But if a civilization forgives those who hurt it, then those who hurt it will not stop hurting it, and eventually will destroy it.

The writer of this article, Mark Goulston, is not being pacifistic in his understanding. He is being seditious against the lives of his Western American civilization. He - and everyone on the planet - knows without any shadow of a doubt that this shooting was a planned Islamic terrorist attack, accomplished in order to promote the takeover of the entire world by Islam, upon pain of death and slavery to anyone who resists it, and to the utter enslavement of all the women on the planet as property.

That was it's only purpose.

Mark Goulston knows this too. But he has written an article to try to get America to lay itself open to be destroyed by these types of attacks - to die in order to enable murderers to succeed. He has done this because of his own personal cowardice, and because obedience to that cowardice has made him immune to his own hypocrisy.

In my book, that makes Mark Goulston evil. And the next time someone dies because politically correct policy has allowed Muslim slaughter, make no mistake - the blood of the dead will be on Mark Goulston's evil, evil hands.

134 posted on 11/09/2009 2:23:05 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

If he had been a white, straight guy who shot up a bunch of blacks or gays, he’d be seen as evil. It’s all about the context. If he shot up everyone in a church, the media would immediately ask for all churches to be closed so they don’t tempt more people to kill.


135 posted on 11/09/2009 2:23:33 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

So in the drive to excuse this terrorist and the ideology behind him and his actions, PTSD now stands for Pre-Tramautic Stress Syndrome? Did I get this right?

Just damn.


136 posted on 11/09/2009 2:25:24 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: potlatch
Sometimes I wonder if our government WANTS to be under muslim rule. Even Hillary has Huma.

LOL! Wicked post, I spilled my coffee (but it was worth it).

137 posted on 11/09/2009 2:28:14 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
I submit there certifiably sane people in this world who do evil things, just as there are mentally ill people who do evil things; both are dangerous towards civil society yet the latter lack willful intent.

Seconded.

138 posted on 11/09/2009 2:34:53 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
From the article: "We can’t know for sure,...

Just how much more does an Islamic extremist have to do before one might get a clue as to why he acted the way he did?

Some people who don't think they can know for sure don't realize that perspective merely throws gasoline on the smoldering fire of Taqquiri.

Besides, we don't have to know for sure, because his Criminal behavior should be penalized by capital punishment. Kill the murdering terrorist and let everybody else live with it.

..."but I believe that the threat of deployment of Major Hasan to first hand have to go into combat and witness and even support Americans killing Muslims was just too much."

He's a Field grade officer in the US Army. He should relish the idea of getting the opportunity to go to war to defend our nation and perhaps influence the power of our Adversaries. His actions indicate his stress was predicated upon his traitorous thinking, lack of self-discipline to avoid such thinking, lack of integrity to grasp how to live in freedom, and apparantly a fatal frantic search for happiness in anything other than what God provides.

... "Previously traumatized by hearing the stories of too many soldiers with PTSD and too many soldiers telling tales of killing Muslims (who he increasingly felt a kinship too) and their families, the fear of now going and perpetrating it firsthand may have proved too much, caused him to panic, and react to that panic by perpetrating the killings he did.

I see the author has no problems surmising about the tales the criminal psychiatrist endured, but lacks the discernment to identify the actions as murder, calling them killings in the same sentence he speaks of soldiers engaged in combat as killing Muslims.

IMHO, there isn't much difference between the author's perspective and the Muslim perspective. Neither position recognize God through faith in Christ. Both attempt to solve problems independent of God and what He provides.

"My first presupposition is that nobody is born bad, but everybody is born vulnerable."

There is only some 2000 years of Christian theology and another 3000 years or so of Hebrew theology which counters that position at fundamental levels of understanding, yet here we have a criminal mind and his peer ignorant of basics touching directly upon the issue contemplating the righteousness of murder and terror.

Great testimony of those who purport to be great, independent of God, as they manifest the greatest of foolishness and are too arrogant to perceive their own malaise.

139 posted on 11/09/2009 3:27:18 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"Now imagine figuratively that a recruit’s brain and “loosey gooseyness” is due to their three brains being loosely wired together."

Let's not.

The Marines I trained with, weren't 'loosey goosey', but were placed under tremendous stress during recruit training in order to discern which men were not able to function under the stress they would likely encounter in combat, thereby failing to perform as functional team members.

It didn't have crap to deal with breaking them down psychologically and rebuilding them.

Maybe the author needs to consider the perspective that all humans have volition and free will, and how to live and let live in organizations which build upon that volition. The discipline and integrity within the character of soldiers is built upon respect for legitimate authority.

140 posted on 11/09/2009 3:37:30 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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