Posted on 11/07/2009 5:26:39 PM PST by cmj328
Watch what happens when the USCCB drops its objection to the bill.
I disagree, and I think that NRL is dead wrong on this.
If enough left wing Democrats vote against the amendment, fine. But if they vote for it, with the intention of killing it later, then the Republicans MUST vote present, or even “no” if necessary.
This health bill, even WITH the amendment, would be an atrocity, which would end up legalizing euthanasia. It would also end up legalizing tax-paid abortion—that step would just be delayed a little.
WE MUST VOTE DOWN THIS ENTIRE BILL. WHATEVER IT TAKES. Sometimes parliamentary procedure requires voting in strange ways, especially when you lack a large enough minority to block passage of an atrocious bill.
Frankly, this isn’t the first time I’ve seen NRLC do something stupid. They lack political sense.
The bishops are not going to be played for suckers.
It was only cover for ‘Blue Dogs’ that want government control health care & abortion, but didn’t want to get nailed for it. With no commitment for it to go into the Conference bill, it was just cover. Period.
My Dem had stated that he could not vote for HR3962 if the abortion amendment wasn’t included. It was defeated? Then I and alot of other Catholics in the district will hold his feet to the fire if he votes yes to HR3962. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.
This is why we can never win. We are in total agreement about abortion. But you can’t see that them defeating the abortion provisions actually gives us great ammunition.
The Catholic Bishops will have to publicly oppose it from the rooftops. This gives us impetus to join with bleeding heart liberals who are against the murder of children but for big government healthcare, and yes, I know a lot of them. The majority of America is pro-life now, the idiots just haven’t accepted that.
You vile Troll.
Go back to the DU .
Pray
You apparently don't understand Catholic moral teaching as it related to legislative processes. You can't force a legislator to support your policy simply by holding a gun to the head of a baby.
Not from me! I think this is a brilliant move. THis bill is very anti life for more than just babies!
Amen!
I don't, but many Republican voting socially conservatives do. There goes the coalition.
It seems to me that the majority of the bishops WANT this government debacle! But they can’t support it if it covers abortion. This amendment gave them cover too.
All true, but they’re not going to be wagged like a dog.
In all fairness I have a feeling that a lot social conservatives knew this was a sham and I also think that there isn’t one socon that votes Republican support socialize medicine.. Give me one socon that does support universal health care... Go away troll...
This bill is NOT just about pro-life issues. It is about government out of control in just about every area of our lives leaving us with massive debt. ANY Republican who supports any part of it should be booted out. If the amendment fails and abortion is left in, it will put the pro-life Democrats in a tough position. If the amendment passes with Republican support, then the Republicans will have a difficult time not voting for the bill and it will give pro-life Democrats reasons to vote for it.
I must be dense, you’re going to have to explain that comment.
Doing that right now!
Most socons I know are otherwise liberal Democrats but they vote Republican when the candidate is pro-life. MOST of them.
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