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(video) Glenn Beck: Palin may be 3rd party candidate in 2012
youtube ^ | 11/3/09 | Fox News

Posted on 11/03/2009 9:25:23 AM PST by Mozilla

This bombshell from Glenn Beck is about three minutes into the segment on Thursday. Beck said leaving the governor’s mansion in Alaska was a smart move.

Beck: “Smart move. And I think she’s also positioning herself for a third party. By the time this election runs around for the president, I’m sorry, but unless the Republicans and the Democrats wake up, a third party will win.”

We shall see how that works out. Many people are angry at Republicans right now. The message sent to Dede Scozzafava is being noticed in Washington. Believe me. But 3 years is a long time in politics. We shall see.

It is time to begin thinking more about the person being considered for public office than for the party.

Beck on Palin

Also of note:

Why are leftist women jealous of Palin


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: glennbeck; gopdisconnect; ny23; perotistas; sarahpalin; trojanhorses
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To: the long march

Enjoy sleeping with the RINOs.

And cleaning up their messes.

GOP-firsters are part of the problem and not part of the solution.


101 posted on 11/03/2009 10:58:13 AM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: the long march
The point was that 3rd parties do not win. Lincoln’s Republican party was NO Longer a third party by the 1854 elections.

1854 was the year the party started, see post 44.

102 posted on 11/03/2009 11:00:22 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Defiant

Not pushing anything, just being realistic. The GOP is becoming just like the Dems. Trying to be everybody’s friend and afraid of making choices that they will be judged by.


103 posted on 11/03/2009 11:02:31 AM PST by MarkeyD (OBAMA. Chains we can believe in!)
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To: sport
Like I said, Gene Taylor. He has a 100% voting record against any kind of abortion and against embryonic stem cell research.

He has a Naral rating of 0%.

He's from a very conservative Republican state and is constantly begged to switch parties at his townhalls.

Stay stupid if you want.

104 posted on 11/03/2009 11:03:21 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mozilla
Love Glenn; except when he talks '3rd Party' politics. His being a Libertarian, it no doubt seems attractive; but cannot think of a better way for America to be 'done in' - totally. Sarah can run as a Republican; if she cannot win Primary; then move on or wait. . .IMHO. . .just do not want three Parties! No time for this. . .our systen works!

Still maintain; as much as I dislike McCain; he at least held our Military in the 'right place' and he would not be 'changing' entire Country to reflect our enemies face. We could have survived till next Election. Not so sure we can with current power structure and it's endeavors.

(This is not unlike how Churches unfold into new names; and pretty soon; a different one on every corner. That IS fine, of course; but fracturing political Parties do not serve a majority.

105 posted on 11/03/2009 11:10:13 AM PST by cricket
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To: EyeGuy
However, how “mainline Republicans”, of the type that selected McCain as the Republican presidential candidate, view things is very important. I’m not sure if they are astute enough to leave the Republican Party.

Who cares? I'm looking at "mainline Republicans" as being the same Republicans who left us in the mess we are - the George W Bushes, the John McCains, the ones who would sell us out with amnesty, or "guest workers" as Jorge Bush called them, the ones who left our borders unsecured in the wake of 9/11 all the while subjecting us to a lot of crap and wasted time at the airports. These are the same Republicans that are bought and paid for by the big companies as well and who have forgotten what it means to be a Conservative American and who created all kinds of new, bigger, and more powerful bureaucracies in the wake of 9/11 while trying to scare Americans into accepting it all..

I don't necessarily support Palin, but I commend her for helping 3rd parties out and I'd like to see the GOP pushed to the side. I'm done with the GOP and have been for a while after last year, but I have my hopes up that we'll finally see 3rd parties that can go in there and give the two major parties a run for their money because the two major parties have been slowly merging.
106 posted on 11/03/2009 11:22:48 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: ansel12
Well, I respectfully disagree, ansel. History is a powerful tool when it comes to modern political analysis and folks who ignore it do so at their own peril.

The 1850s Whig Party flew apart because of its own internal contradictions. The modern Republican Party is currently under similar stress with its own internal contradictions, albeit with entirely different issues, but with potentially the same results if it does not get its act together fast.

I'm just saying...

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

--George Santayana, The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

107 posted on 11/03/2009 11:29:14 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Defiant
What proof do have to support the MSM myth that Perot took more votes from Bush then Clinton? And while your at it, go find that Perot/Clinton conspiracy to defeat Bush document.

At the time, I along with most of my friends were solid Democrats or political nonparticipants until Perot. But reform was and still is appealing.

The Republicans bashed him all over the place only to co-opt all his ideas 2 years later to take congress with their rip off ‘Contract with America’. The Republicans couldn't beat him but they still had to join him.

Perot is back. This time in a skirt. Palin gets my support not because she sounds like Reagan, but rather because she sounds like Perot. She brings in reform minded voters along with conservatives. That is the winning combination.

108 posted on 11/03/2009 11:38:35 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
The 1850s Whig Party flew apart because of its own internal contradictions.

Right, it split over whether it was pro or anti slavery, it was a short lived 22 year party that existed in a different world and a different electorate, the Republicans have been around for a 155 years and operates in a nation where 54% of the electorate are females.

109 posted on 11/03/2009 11:44:22 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Blue State Insurgent; Defiant

We do know that Perot was pro-abortion, with his wife working for Planned Parenthood, his wife and daughter were recently given awards from PP for their dedicated proabortion efforts over the years.

The anti gun rights Ross Perot also wanted to go door to door in Dallas to confiscate citizens guns.


110 posted on 11/03/2009 11:47:33 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Thinking there is a third party happening is like
waiting for the Easter bunny.

The only reason Hoffman is in the majority is: He is a life long Republican, the NY Conservative Party are Republicans, the 23rd Dist. has 44,000 more Republicans than Democrats.


111 posted on 11/03/2009 11:59:52 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Mozilla

I love Beck, but I think he isn’t understanding Palin, he needs to go back and look at her reputation, she took on a sitting GOP governor and beat him and the democrat, she didn’t run third party as a spoiler, she went head-to-head.. I expect, if she decides to run, she will do the same in 2012.. take on the Romney and Huck toe-to-toe...


112 posted on 11/03/2009 12:03:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SoCalPol
Having more than two parties used to be normal in this country, so don't count them out. We've reached a point where the two parties do everything they can to maintain the Status quo of only having two major parties and that's gotten us into trouble and it's given them more power than they deserve. It's given us, and will continue to give us, candidates that do not reflect our beliefs and values. Instead, it gives us candidates meant to appeal to moderates or to the left, while ignoring Conservatives. Moderates are people unwilling to take a stance.

I'm not going to jump on the Libertarian loony train like Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, and Bob Barr, but there are other parties I'm looking in to.
113 posted on 11/03/2009 12:51:28 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: SoCalPol
I dunno, SoCal, but it sure looks to me like the GOP is pulling clean apart at the seams...

Uncivil War: Conservatives to challenge a dozen GOP candidates

114 posted on 11/03/2009 1:00:49 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: af_vet_rr

If people don’t work within the Republican party to
support Conservative or in some areas at least moderate Conservatives, you will always have Liberal Democrats.

Because Hoffman is a Republican in a Republican Dist.
Things worked for him.

The third parties especially in State and National elections
always give the election win to the Democrats.

Perot gave the election to Clinton.
Teddy Roosevelt as a Bull Moose Party gave the election to Woodrow Wilson.


115 posted on 11/03/2009 1:08:08 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Having followed elections for at least 50 years, I have seen it all and this is no different than many other elections. In some cases there have been worse decades back.

The major difference, 24/7 TV and the internet which
dramatizes eveything.


116 posted on 11/03/2009 1:19:28 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Blue State Insurgent

I’m sorry, RINO inspired bubble? Where is that coming from? If you bought Perot’s baloney, sorry about that — I had his number long before he claimed Bush was out to sabotage his daughter’s wedding.

Republicans had more reason to jump party-line votes, when provided the opportunity, many took it. But had Perot not played his ego-maniacal move, I still say that people would have bought Clinton’s goods the same as they bought into 0bama last year, he would have won more than 50% of the vote in 1992.


117 posted on 11/03/2009 1:22:27 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: SoCalPol
I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Glenn Beck as much as I do these days. I don't think much of Glenn Beck personally - I think he fakes a lot of his tears and outrage, he's a Mormon which I have serious problems with, and he's a Libertarian which I also disagree with.

With that said, I do find myself agreeing with him more and more though - allowing the moderates/progressives to run things in the GOP has led Conservatives to being left out, and there is nothing in it for us. Beck had it right - if you end up having to choose between two liberals, and the only difference is one has an (R) next to their name, you're still stuck with deciding between two liberals and there is nothing in it for a Conservative.
118 posted on 11/03/2009 1:37:22 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Defiant

He doesn’t seem to understand how the system works. He says, “I’ll vote for a Democrat if he’s conservative!” I won’t. It’s all about the numbers. If I vote in a conservative Democrat, that strengthens the party’s majority and *hurts* conservative causes. I agree with him that the GOP is in a sorry state, but we don’t get anywhere by saying, “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference!” Let’s highlight the differences and work to get rid of party members who would rather blur the lines. In other words, there are two teams on the field. One is unified in moving the ball towards their goal, while the other has a few players who are trying to throw the game. Since it’s impossible to field a new team between now and 2012, let’s bench the cheaters.


119 posted on 11/03/2009 1:44:38 PM PST by Rastus
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To: af_vet_rr

I worked in the Reagan Campaign when he first ran for Gov.
A counter demonstrator against the Code Pinkos and against the Pro Hamas. I will not aid the Democrats in any way.

Beck oversimplifies, one trait of addictive people.
He also takes credit in areas that others have been on long before him.
He lifts comments and information from a book pub. months ago without attribute.
Beck doesn’t feel akin to Republicans, having come from a Democrat family.

Yesterday on his program he droned on again, Republicans and Democrats are the same.

Oh really. 3 of the 5 congressmen here in San Diego are great Conservative Republicans, Marine Col, Rep. Duncan D. Hunter, Bilbray, and Darrell Issa.

BTW you can download Issa’s over 80 page report exposing ACORN

To say they and other good Conservative Republicans are the same as Democrats is a lie and where Beck has lost many people.

Beck says Republicans Not some Republicans are the same as Democrats.

What he is doing is more damaging to good Republicans and
a help to the Democrats.


120 posted on 11/03/2009 1:58:15 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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