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California moves closer to pay-by-the-mile auto insurance
Sacramento Bee ^ | 3 November 2009 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 11/03/2009 6:43:13 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

Car insurance by the tankful?

Not quite, but California moved a step closer last month to pay-as-you-drive policies that could allow motorists to buy insurance like they do gasoline — a little at a time.

Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner released regulations permitting and authorizing mileage verification for pay-as-you-drive, without dictating what form such plans must take.

The goal is to use per-mile pricing to entice Californians not to drive so much, thus easing air pollution, relieving traffic congestion and lowering the number of traffic collisions.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; carinsurance; paybymile
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Liberals always want to modify your behavior through government.

Conservatives want to modify government so it allows you to behave as you wish.

1 posted on 11/03/2009 6:43:15 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

I think this would produce a proposition in record time.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 6:46:58 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This does make sense.

(And I am an on-the-road salesman with a car used for business.)


3 posted on 11/03/2009 6:49:28 AM PST by earlJam
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To: Erik Latranyi

What about people that wish to use too much fuel?


4 posted on 11/03/2009 6:49:30 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: Enterprise

Why? Would the program be mandatory? I would prefer to buy insurance by the mile.


5 posted on 11/03/2009 6:49:39 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Illegals exempted - of couse...
6 posted on 11/03/2009 6:49:46 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If this was a permissible option for consumers to choose in order to get steep discounts for periods in which they drive particular vehicles little, it would be quite a different matter. Insurance as we know it is the very definition of a highly regulated business.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 6:50:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Hmmm...

Road gridlock decreases travel distance, and increases pollution from cars.

California is promoting pollution by supporting this idea!!!

/liberal logic


8 posted on 11/03/2009 6:51:28 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Moonman62

The knock-on question is where does this mileage data go, and who vouches for it. It should only be the insurance company’s business, but if it becomes the state’s business too we have a problem, Lucy.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 6:52:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: Moonman62
Actually, it would be better if they did it as per gallon. Then you could put the tax on at the pump, and illegals would have to pay the tax even if they don't have insurance.

Also, if the tax paid for just minimum insurance, then people could pay extra for additional coverage.

However, the way this will be implemented will be too much Big Brother, and therefore I don't think it is a good idea.

10 posted on 11/03/2009 6:53:31 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Erik Latranyi
But I would have to fix the odometer on my truck...


11 posted on 11/03/2009 6:53:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Liberals always want to modify your behavior through government. Conservatives want to modify government so it allows you to behave as you wish.

Then what I have believed for a long time is true: the Drug Warriors aren't conservative...they are big-government / we-know-what-is-best-for-you LIBERALS.

12 posted on 11/03/2009 6:54:33 AM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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This actually sounds like they are removing a government obstacle on the insurance companies to craft whatever products they think they can sell, not trying to modify people’s behavior.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 6:56:07 AM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

...it’s worth looking into...since I retired I don’t drive that much...I wouldn’t mind getting a break on my insurance premiums.


14 posted on 11/03/2009 6:57:29 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Erik Latranyi

This proposition is counter-intuitive.

A single, pot-smoking, 60-year old hippie who drives her Prius once a month is far more likely to cause an accident than a 35-year old family man who commutes to work each day.

Granted, all other factors being equal, a driver with a 60-mile commute is more likely to be involved in an accident that a driver with a 30-mile commute.

But the initial insurance premium would have to be relatively high to cover the once-a-monthers in a cost-effective manner. This is government, though, and also CA, so nevermind.


15 posted on 11/03/2009 6:58:02 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Moonman62
I would have to see a cost projection before making a final decision on whether or not it would be beneficial to me. If it resulted in a substantial reduction in insurance, then I could support it.

Looking at areas of the state like L.A., San Diego, and the Bay Area, where people do a LOT of commuting, I can see strong resistance to the plan.

16 posted on 11/03/2009 6:58:22 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: krb

“This actually sounds like they are removing a government obstacle on the insurance companies to craft whatever products they think they can sell, not trying to modify people’s behavior.”

From the article:

“The goal is to use per-mile pricing to entice Californians not to drive so much, thus easing air pollution, relieving traffic congestion and lowering the number of traffic collisions.”

Clearly the goal is to modify peoples behavior.


17 posted on 11/03/2009 7:00:41 AM PST by Crim
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It should only be the insurance company’s business, but if it becomes the state’s business too we have a problem, Lucy.

Why? The constitutional right to privacy?

18 posted on 11/03/2009 7:02:46 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Enterprise

Anyone who even considers there will be a “cost savings” is simply dreaming...

The only way to modify behavior {the stated goal} is to make the undesired behavior cost prohibitive....

CHA GHING!

No..it wont make insurance any cheaper....it will justify an increase in premiums...or a fee...or some other cleverly worded price increase...


19 posted on 11/03/2009 7:04:24 AM PST by Crim
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To: Erik Latranyi

If such plans include a GPS tracking device, it will destroy privacy, for such a device will record the location of the vehicle every minute it is in motion. This must never be allowed to come to pass.


20 posted on 11/03/2009 7:05:12 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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