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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA
Even some Muslim theologians joined the Darwin bandwagon

"Some" is definitely not "all" Muslims.

There is a huge creationist movement in Turkey right now that is totally discombulating the few remaining Darwinist scientists there. It completely undermines Darwinist assumptions of common ancestor and natural selection. It posits the Cambrian explosion as the Creation event. Thus this model of creationism says that the Creation was about 150 billion years ago; after that time the species remained remarkably stable (that is, not producing a plethora of speciation willy-nilly, as Darwin's theory seems to predict). The major exponent of this creationist theory is Harun Yaya, whose article I read in the outstanding book, Divine Action and Natural Selection, edited by Joseph Seckbach and Richard Gordon (2008).

Sigh. I bought the book; I read it; I loved it for the amazing range of coverage of its subject matter from a diversity of scientific disciplines (biologists, physicists, astronomers, astrophysicists) and opinion. Because many of the articles are followed by "discussions" with critics of the authorial point of view, there were some really fun "food fights" going on. Probably the most fun involved responses to Harun Yaya.... LOLOL!

Anyhoot, I'd love to quote you from these exchanges here but alas!!! I cannot find the book!!! I can't imagine I lent it to anyone. I just can't find it.... Jeepers, I hope I don't have to replace it (it wasn't cheap).

Great book. Highly recommended. :^)

46 posted on 11/03/2009 10:10:06 AM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: betty boop

Yes there is a huge and growing Muslim creationist movement based in Turkey, and rapidly spreading throughout the Muslim world—especially to Muslim’s who reside in the West. This should open up many opportunities for Christian missionaries, as it will make it easier to preach the gospel message, while at the same time helping us fight the War on Terror, because Muslim’s who become part of this particular creationist movement are taught to denounce terrorism being waged in the name of Islam.

Having said that, Muslim creationists are not without a few disturbing ideas of their own. For instance, they are still opposed to the state of Israel (but not violently so), are prone to wacky conspiracy theories, and most of them long for an (albeit peaceful) restoration of the Ottoman Empire...which, ironically, would be a step up for much of the Muslim world...but a unified Islam, even a peaceful Islam, is a very disturbing prospect, no matter which way you slice it, as the Jihadis would be gunning to make said unity their own 24/7.


47 posted on 11/03/2009 10:44:51 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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