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UK: [Tory Party leader] David Cameron to tell voters: no vote on Lisbon Treaty
The Telegraph ^ | 11/2/2009 | James Kirkup,

Posted on 11/02/2009 3:42:40 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Conservative government will not give a referendum on the European Union’s Lisbon Treaty.

The Tory party leader’s admission, which could come as early as Tuesday, will bring accusations that he has broken clear promises to grant a popular vote on the treaty.

Mr Cameron gave voters an “iron-clad” promise in 2007 that a Conservative government would hold a popular vote on Lisbon.

And, in May this year, he said: "A progressive reform agenda demands that we redistribute power from the EU to Britain and from judges to the people. We will therefore hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty."

But today Mr Cameron gave his clearest signal yet that he will not hold a popular vote on the treaty, which creates the post of EU president and ends more than 50 British vetoes over European policy.

Mr Cameron said that once the document is endorsed by all 27 EU members and comes into force, it will “not be a treaty” and will instead be part of European law.

The last obstacle to the ratification of the treaty is likely to be removed today when the constitutional court in the Czech Republic rules that the treaty is compatible with the country's laws.

Once the Czech court approves the Treaty, all that remains is for Vaclav Klaus, the Czech President, to sign it.

Mr Klaus has repeatedly tried to block the treaty, but has now said he is prepared to sign it.

Mr Cameron has publicly urged him to hold out, but yesterday he said: "I had always hoped that President Klaus wouldn't sign but it seems that times are changing."

Tory sources said the Conservative leader could now formally abandon the referendum pledge today, even before the Czech leader signs.

“We have to realistic and once the Czech court rules, we

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cameron; eu; globalism; lisbontreaty; tory

1 posted on 11/02/2009 3:42:41 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Cameron is doing what he can, if the treaty is ratified before he takes power, then there is not a lot he can do about it, thats the problem, what he can do is force the EU to repatriate powers given away and he can hold up further referendums and countries joining until they do.

He has also said he will make sure it is enshrined in the law that ANY further referendum will have to be put to a referendum.

The UK govt have signed away everything, Cameron will do his best but he has a hard task ahead of him.


2 posted on 11/02/2009 4:10:14 PM PST by sunmars
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To: sunmars

sorry that should read any further treaty must be put to a referendum.


3 posted on 11/02/2009 4:10:56 PM PST by sunmars
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To: knighthawk

This is significant.


4 posted on 11/02/2009 4:21:53 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: sunmars

First of all, there will be no need for new treaties or referendums as Lisbon gives them all the power they need to make future changes without them.

Second, Cameron could call for a referendum on totally withdrawing from the EU. He won’t because he is just as much a globalist as all the other main party politicians. His main role is as a “safety valve” - someone brought in by the elite globalists who says the right things to keep the angry British people from actually voting for someone who could wreck the elite globalist’s EU plans.


5 posted on 11/02/2009 4:32:26 PM PST by Fingolfin
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To: Fingolfin; All
I wrote to Cameron then gave up being an activist for the Conservative Party 6 months ago because I was told this was going to happen, all the Conservative Party were told, I posted as such on here I believe.

David Cameron and Gordon Brown are exactly the same thing minus a few girly-fights over how much to spend on DSS.
Camerons Chancellor, George Osborn goes on holiday with Browns Trade Minister, Peter Mandelson to Corfu, the whole Tory-NULabour fiasco is pure theatre.

Daniel Hannan is the only vote for PM in the Spring, I don't care if He's leader of the Girl Guides, He'd get my vote.

The Conservative [they're not] Party is going to get a shock at the general election I believe, they've sold their soul, and Brits have had enough of liars in Westminster.

Kindest regards,
Bethybabes69, a disgusted, now retired Conservative stalwart activist for over 20 years.
6 posted on 11/02/2009 4:45:29 PM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: Fingolfin; All
To add, you're absolutely correct about Lisbon, and correct also that the referendum should be on complete withdrawal from the EU if there can be no repatriation of Sovereign power, Globalist capital is irrelevant if a Country has no soul.

You're not going to hear on the MSM, but the Queen had a secret, crisis meeting with Government this week, a little bird told me, and I absolutely know it's true, that's all I can say.
7 posted on 11/02/2009 4:51:41 PM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: bethybabes69; Fingolfin
"the referendum should be on complete withdrawal from the EU if there can be no repatriation of Sovereign power, Globalist capital is irrelevant if a Country has no soul. "

UK might as well give up its seat on the UN Security Council and its veto right.

I think Brussels in is the market for that seat.

yitbos

8 posted on 11/02/2009 5:02:54 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bethybabes69

Crisis, like she’s concerned about Lisbon?


9 posted on 11/02/2009 5:31:00 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Norman Bates
I suspect that there are issues between the Govt and Monarchy, Norman. Exactly what, at the moment I have no idea, but no doubt Europe is on the agenda.

Incidentally, Cameron is making a press conference tomorrow about Britain and the Conservative position on Europe, now that Vaclav Klaus has paved the way for Lisbon to be put into force.
10 posted on 11/03/2009 7:02:21 AM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: bruinbirdman
The UK needs to start governing itself properly IMO, this Country is falling apart because of many issues, lots of them relating to European intervention, the UN is a joke.

As an example, I tried to buy classic bangers [fireworks] today for our Nov 5th party, they've been banned because of EU Statute.
11 posted on 11/03/2009 7:07:50 AM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: All
Daniel Hannan Resigns from Conservative MEP post to fight for UK Democracy at home, the fightback for Britain begins! This has extreme relevance.

[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378991/posts]
12 posted on 11/05/2009 3:05:30 AM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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