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To: WallStreetCapitalist
...you are not going to get me to tell someone that the government has the right to determine their private, consensual, relationship.

Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships. This is a scientific fact...


As a Christian,...

BULLSHIITE!


I have my own beliefs on the matter because I believe the Bible is my authority. That's a matter for my family and church.

Religious faggotry is an insular self-referential cult.


To fail to recognize that reality is to fail to rationally and objectively look at the facts.

REALITY is axiomatic... If you have to tell a grown man babies will not emerge from his rectum, he is mentally ill.

30 posted on 11/01/2009 3:55:51 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
1.) You're using evolution as a justification for God's will for personal relationships? No, homosexuality is a sin because God said it, not because of evolution (for instance, some scientists believe that women with gay children are statistically more fertile so homosexuality is a byproduct of female reproduction success and thus is compatible). I don't believe that. God's word alone should be enough for us to believe something is right or wrong for our own life.

2.) I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I believe that He died for my sins and rose on the third day. I believe that I am accountable to Him for my sins, thoughts, and actions, and that I'm called to a different standard than the world. I believe that by His grace, and not my actions, I am saved. I also believe that I have to live holy as a testament to Him. Yes. I'm a Christian. yes, I live my life according to His standard for morality.

I have a problem with the GOVERNMENT telling people what is and what is not acceptable between consenting adults (not churches, not families, not friends) for the same reason I don't think they have a right to FORCE me to take a vaccine or FORCE me to procreate for the good of the nation. The Government must be morally neutral (as a protestant, I don't believe my divorced grandmother is going to hell but there are some Orthodox Christians who believe that with all of their heart; if we let the Government outlaw divorce, they are imposing their religious beliefs on me).

Again, your reproduction argument isn't logical either because as Christians, our only argument for our own lives should be something is immoral or moral because God said so. Period. There have been multiple posts in the past few days on Free Republic about scientists perfecting techniques that will let two women or two men biologically procreate genetic offspring together, just like an inferitble couple would. Would that suddenly make homosexuality moral? According to your logic it would. Again: Morality or immorality is determined by the Word of God and not by your opinion of scientific fact.

The reason I so strongly believe in the right of individual families and churches to make religious decisions is because I'm a student of history. Our ancestors slaughtered themselves over questions of whether Mary remained a virgin after she birthed Jesus or whether the bread literally becomes the body of Christ or is merely representative of the body of Christ. I don't want the Government to have any say, in any way, shape, or form, on any religious matter. A perfect case in point: I agree on 99% of issues with my Christian brethren but because I have pause over one issue that many in my generation do, you literally attempting to pass judgment on whether or not I'm saved (which, frankly, is a right that neither you nor any other man has).

If you can't understand the rational logic behind that, then I pardon your mental deficiency.

39 posted on 11/01/2009 4:27:38 PM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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