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Direction of GOP at Center of N.Y. Congressional Race
Fox News ^ | October 31, 2009 | N/A

Posted on 10/31/2009 2:21:18 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar

Congressional campaign in upstate New York could play a big role in the GOP's approach to the 2010 elections and beyond.

What began as a little-noticed congressional campaign in upstate New York has become a high-profile battle for the direction of the Republican Party, and it could play a big role in the GOP's approach to the 2010 elections and beyond.

With Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman mounting a serious challenge to moderate Republican Dede Scozzafava and Democrat Bill Owens, prominent Republicans are splitting support between Hoffman and Scozzafava, providing an unusually raw display of the party's divisions.

Supporters of Mr. Hoffman, including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, say the GOP needs to return to its conservative roots. Backers of Scozzafava, such as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, say the party must embrace centrists who can capture swing districts.

There have been few neutral surveys in recent weeks, but polls backed by both liberal and conservative groups suggest this has become a two-person race between Owens and Hoffman. Democrats, clearly viewing it that way, have been aiming their fire at Hoffman.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: conservatives; hoffman; ny23; nygop; rebuilding
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1 posted on 10/31/2009 2:21:18 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

GOP, get this. This is only the first move on a complete and utter open season on all RINO’s.

Get this!!! We want our party back just as much as we want our COUNTRY back.

You have been warned. Get out of town


2 posted on 10/31/2009 2:41:13 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Conservatism — There is no such equalizer as freedom


3 posted on 10/31/2009 2:42:13 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: All
Backers of Scozzafava, such as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

Newt. Your wrong. Stop strategizing and stick to conservative principals. Or do you really have any? Are you just strategizing to get the Republicans back in power? Just saying what you think the electorate want to hear?

If so, your ship has sailed.

Either commence to fighting or get out of the way.

4 posted on 10/31/2009 3:05:00 AM PDT by Toadman (((Conservative First. Molon Labe.)))
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To: Toadman
And they can't understand whats wrong with the GOP, why don't they love us anymore. With Newt sticking his foot in his mouth, Mccain sucking and foaming at the mouth to be loved by these morons, Bushes spending and the reason we have this Marxists cabal in Washington and the GOP getting behind an Obama disciple in republican clothes is a good reason. You will be crying in your soup with these rats if you don't step aside and allow conservatism to shine. The writings on the wall GOP, we're not only dissatisfied with them where also dissatisfied with you.
5 posted on 10/31/2009 4:43:17 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: ronnie raygun

The GOP needs to get Scozza to hold a press conference and bow out this weekend - throwing all of her support behind Hoffman.


6 posted on 10/31/2009 5:14:01 AM PDT by wewereright
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To: Jet Jaguar

I would never want to live in New York, but the presence of fusion parties like the Conservative Party is one of the few good things. If you’re a Republican, you can prove your convictions for smaller government/lower taxes and get the Conservative endorsement or you can’t. Everyone knows the Republican Party of NY is a shell, a zombie political party. Its last statewide office holder was George Pataki (whose margin of victory in 1994 over Mario Cuomo came from the Conservative Party).


7 posted on 10/31/2009 5:16:05 AM PDT by tellw
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To: wewereright

That sure would be nice. Give them a call, write them, write them on theri Facebook, harass them until they do.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 5:16:15 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Jet Jaguar

When will conservatives stop voting for the liberal GOP?


9 posted on 10/31/2009 5:47:47 AM PDT by kindred (In the beginning, God created the heavens in the earth. Jesus is God our Saviour.)
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To: kindred

The NY GOP can’t groom a conservative guy if their lives depended on it. They have lost their way. I think the NY-23 race gave them a slap in the face. However, I think they are too ignorant to notice.


10 posted on 10/31/2009 6:24:41 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: kindred
When will conservatives stop voting for the liberal GOP?

When they stop signing on to the rest of the Neocon agenda advocated for by the Republican Establishment: endless wars in the Middle East, corporate welfare, "trickle down" economics, etc.

11 posted on 10/31/2009 6:37:45 AM PDT by Z in Washington
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To: wewereright
The GOP needs to get Scozza to hold a press conference and bow out this weekend - throwing all of her support behind Hoffman.

The GOP thinks the opposite, that Hoffman should throw his support to Scozzafaza. It is best that Hoffman beat them headup to show true conservative strength. Show them that they need us, not vice versa.

12 posted on 10/31/2009 6:44:24 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Jet Jaguar
moderate Republican Dede Scozzafava

Since when is pro abortion, pro gay marriage, pro stimulus considered 'moderate' for a Republcan? She's an out and out liberal!
13 posted on 10/31/2009 7:07:50 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Go Sarah, Go Doug)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Here’s why the liberal wing of the GOP needs to come to grips with - Newt and Steele get educated! Here’s why you are history.

Endorsements for “THE CONSERVATIVE” DOUG HOFFMAN

Fred Thompson

Club For Growth

Police Benevolent Association

Concerned Women

Citizens of the Republic

Susan B. Anthony List

American Conservative Union

Citizens United Political Victory Fund

Campaign for Working Families

NYS Right to Life PAC

GING-PAC

Conservative Victory Fund

Eagle Forum

912candidates.org

Nat’l Organization for Marriage

America’s Independent Party

Dick Armey

Steve Forbes

Sarah Palin

Rick Santorum

Wholesaler-Distributor Political Action Committee

Freedoms Defense Fund

U.S. Representative Todd Tiahrt (R-Kansas)

James Dobson, PhD

Dana Rohrabacher

Right Principles

Tim Pawlenty

Jim Demint

Atlas PAC

National Conservative Fund

Gun Owners of American-PVF

Life and Liberty PAC

Minuteman PAC

Right Principles PAC

Term Limits America PAC

Congressman Jeff Flake - AZ

Congressman Linder - GA

The Heart PAC

Republican Majority PAC

Family Research Council PAC

Leadership for America’s Future

Conservative Opportunity Leadership & Enterprise

Associated Builders & Contractors

Citizens United Political Victory Fund

Freedom First PAC

Congressman Steve King - IA

Catholic Families for America PAC

The American Conservative Party

Rep. Mary Fallin (R-OK)

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO)

Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA)

Rep. John C. Fleming (R-LA)

Rep. Steve King (R-IA)

Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ)

Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ)

Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA)

Rep. Jerry Moran (R-KS)

Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN)
Conservative Party USA

Plattsburg Mayor Donald Kasprzak

Governor George Pataki

Catholic Families for America

Conservative Party USA

LOCAL REPUBLICAN LEADERS THAT HAVE ENDORSED DOUG

Franklin County

Mark Flack Wells, Fort Covington GOP Chair, Franklin County GOP Committee

Lucien Leroux, Fort Covington GOP Chair, Franklin County GOP Committee

Mark J. Wells, Fort Covington GOP Committee, Franklin County GOP Committee

Joe Spadaro, Harrietstown GOP Chair, Franklin County GOP Committee

June Iby, Westville GOP Committee, Franklin County GOP Committee

Arthur Iby, Westville GOP Chair, Franklin County GOP Committee

Mark Besio, Malone GOP Committee, Franklin County GOP Committee

Red Flanagan Wells, Fort Covington GOP Committee, Franklin County GOP Committee

Jamie Durant, Town Councilman, Bombay, Franklin County GOP Committee

Madison County

Bill Brod, Cazenovia GOP Committee, Madison County GOP Committee

Clinton County

Alicia Sirk, Plattsburgh GOP Committee (Chair)

David Kimmel, Plattsburgh GOP Committee (former Chair)

Oliver Barie, Champlain GOP Committee, President, Plattsburgh State Reds (College Republicans)

Oneida County

Richard Simpson, Lee GOP Committee

Fulton County

Bob Dugan, Fulton County GOP Committee, First Vice Chair (resigned)

Joe DiGiacomo, Fulton County GOP Committee (Executive Committee), Broadalbin GOP Committee (Chairman)

Emory Chase, Fulton County GOP Committee

Dexter Risedorph, Fulton County GOP Committee (Executive Committee, former Chair)

Lon Peck , Fulton County GOP Committee (Executive Committee)

Carol Maider, Fulton County GOP Committee (Executive Committee)

Bryan Marcucci, Councilman-at-Large, Johnstown

David J. Jankowski, Former Fulton County GOP Committeemen

Fulton County Elected Officials

Al Bohne, Former Fulton County Treasurer

William Eschler, Fulton County Clerk, Fulton County GOP Committeeman

Lee Hollenbeck, Supervisor, Broadalbin

Rick Argotsinger, Supervisor, Mayfield

Linda Kemper, Supervisor, Northampton

Greg Fagan, Supervisor, Perth

Saint Lawrence County

Mary Ashley Carroll, Former Saint Lawrence County GOP Committeewoman


14 posted on 10/31/2009 7:15:09 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Go Sarah, Go Doug)
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To: Z in Washington
trickle down" economics

Which Leftist clown posse do you work for? DNC? Moveon.org? Act Up? The 0 Regime? You just exposed yourself Leftist troll.

There is nothing "Neo Con" about "Trickle down" economics. Supply side Economics has worked every time it has been tried.

15 posted on 10/31/2009 7:28:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Z in Washington
When they stop signing on to the rest of the Neocon agenda advocated for by the Republican Establishment: endless wars in the Middle East, corporate welfare, "trickle down" economics, etc.

So you post 3 ignorant Leftist lies in a row that have no base in anything other then the deluded Leftists ignorant rantings about Conservatives.

So which Leftist fraud propaganda outfit do you work for?

16 posted on 10/31/2009 7:31:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Z in Washington

Ah, looks like you have stumbled onto the exact wrong forum. We actually know that trickle down economics works. And the use of the word “neocon” is also a dead give away to your true beliefs.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 7:47:26 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Z in Washington

Left Wing Troll on board.


18 posted on 10/31/2009 7:56:21 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Hear! Hear! THE MAN!


19 posted on 10/31/2009 8:47:31 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Jet Jaguar
the party must embrace centrists who can capture swing districts

At best, such logic would apply only in swing districts. NY23 isn't one of those.

In reality, the GOP's first choice in any and all districts should be the candidate best able to lead by actually selling conservative ideas and principles to non-ideological voters. Choosing a moderate should only be done when an effective salesman for conservatism can't be found in a swing district.

20 posted on 10/31/2009 10:55:41 AM PDT by sourcery (Those whom the gods would destroy they first make socialist...)
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