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To: nathanbedford

obama and his handlers want the drugs. If they can pay the taliban to deliver the drugs, they will throw our troops AND Afghanistan into the Lion’s Den. They do not care. They have no conscience. And bam is a muslim. He is not being inconsistent with his muslim background.
America will suffer a defeat. bam will surrender. America will suffer its worst humiliation in history. And islam will have its first GREAT victory.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 2:47:43 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: MestaMachine
And bam is a muslim. He is not being inconsistent with his muslim background.

I disagree. It seems to me one can be a Manchurian Marxist or one can be a Manchurian Muslim but it is almost impossible to be both unless you really are schizophrenic. In fact it is almost impossible to be a Manchurian Muslim because the dictates of the faith require open expression. It is philosophically antagonistic to entertain the Marxist view of the world and accommodate Islam.

Although both are thoroughly authoritarian, Marxists are eternally in Mortal combat with theists. Muslims are eternally in mortal combat with unbelievers. They proceeds from different starting positions and they proceeds toward different goals. Neither their origins nor their goals are compatible.

I suppose it is possible for Obama to be both a Manchurian Marxist and a Manchurian Muslim but I think it highly unlikely. Since the evidence shows that he is a Marxist, I think his accommodation to Islam is superficial and traditional. I think that explains his bowing to the Prince of Arabia, for example.

To the degree that Islam poses a threat to Marxism, Obama must make a choice and I believe he will choose the latter. If he can dither and procrastinate making an unpalatable choice between the two, especially when other factors like poll numbers and political considerations are at play, I have no doubt that he will do so.

But I think it is an absolute mistake to believe that Obama is afraid to wage war. I accept that he is reluctant to wage war to further the national interests of the United States but I believe he will fight with cold-blooded determination to maintain his own power and to advance his Marxist worldview.

Strange as it sounds and as infuriating as many on this thread will find this observation, Obama is an idealist. But he is also an atheist in the truest sense. He is a God Player who will tolerate no threat to his freedom of action. One can be a narcissist and a believer but one must so distort the principles of a major religion like Islam that the contortions become bizarre. It is much cleaner to believe that Obama is a pure narcissist who has plugged in Marxism as a guiding philosophy and gives him the self-confidence his narcissism demands because it explains everything. Islam can do that as well but it requires submission.


15 posted on 10/31/2009 3:21:21 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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