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To: Mr. Know It All
So, which is worse? Having half the country be pro-abortion or having more socialism in our nation?

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Any crisis pregnancy assistance must be privately run ... we cannot allow ourselves to go 100% socialist like Cuba ... if you think socialist means the end of abortion because the womans and childs needs will be met think again .. in Russia women having double digit abortion counts was ROUTINE ,, in Cuba 90% of all pregnancies end in abortion ,, the mothers don't want their children to live in a system like that and the system would rather abort for the price of a few minutes of a doctors time than take on the burden of another mouth.

17 posted on 10/30/2009 2:35:02 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer
Any crisis pregnancy assistance must be privately run...
The point made in Strategy #2 is that "the government should step in" when those private efforts fall short. Naturally, that appeals to Democrats. So are you saying that given the choice between converting a Democrat to pro-life and opposing socialism, you'd oppose socialism?
in Cuba 90% of all pregnancies end in abortion

Wow. That's not even CLOSE to true. It was 34% in 2005. You'll notice that "use fabricated statistics" was not in the list of suggested strategies. There's a reason for that: a lot of Democrats know how to use Google and if you don't check your facts, you look either foolish or dishonest.

Also, while Cuba is socialist, it is also extremely poor. Abortion rates in a wealthy socialist country, like Sweden, are lower (25%). They aren't significantly higher than the US (23%). Canada, with it's single-payer system is slightly lower (22%), and the UK with its government-run National Health Service also comes in at 22%. That would suggest we could save some children by adopting either of their systems, right? Obviously, it's not that simple.

Really, if you look at the data, what lowers the abortion rate is freedom and economic opportunity (which are related). Socialism itself does not appear to play a huge role either way.

18 posted on 10/30/2009 5:09:58 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All
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