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1 posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
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Well, here it is.

Just as was predicted, dismissed. With a pretty hard smack down at the end.

89 posted on 10/29/2009 10:58:47 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Elderberry

Not entirely surprising. It takes a lot of guts to confront the system. This judge was a former Marine, but then so was John Murtha.

It seems to me that Orly had a reasonable request: that Obama should end the legitimate doubts that he is not constitutionally qualified to be President, and that he perpetrated a criminal fraud on the voters of this country, with the help of Nancy Pelosi, the DNC, and the congress.

Are these suspicions false? Then why is Obama hiding ALL his records? Why did his passport information vanish from State Department files, and why was one of the people he arranged to do it shot and killed in DC last years? Why have even his kindergarten records vanished?

As for that forged COLB posted on-line, we don’t know where it came from or who obtained it. Obama has NEVER personally said that it was real, because he wants deniability.


174 posted on 10/29/2009 11:49:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Elderberry

The Judgement says:
Keyes may have standing.
This Court can’t deselect a sitting President.
If the case had been file before Obama elected then Carter may have been able to offer redress.
Case filed late because of KREEPs delaying/disagreement.
Carter points to action of Quo Warranto in the DC Court as the only Judicial way to remove a sitting President.
Still no hearin of the actual merits of the case, ie is Obama a NBC.


184 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:51 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Elderberry
The hearings have been interesting to say the least. Plaintiffs’ arguments through Taitz have generally failed to aid the Court. Instead, Plaintiffs’ counsel has favored rhetoric seeking to arouse the emotions and prejudices of her followers rather than the language of a lawyer seeking to present arguments through cogent legal reasoning. While the Court has no desire to chill Plaintiffs’ enthusiastic presentation, Taitz’s argument often hampered the efforts of her cocounsel Gary Kreep (“Kreep”), counsel for Plaintiffs Drake and Robinson, to bring serious issues before the Court. The Court has attempted to give Plaintiffs a voice and a chance to be heard by respecting their choice of counsel and by making every effort to discern the legal arguments of Plaintiffs’ counsel amongst the rhetoric.

This Court exercised extreme patience when Taitz endangered this case being heard at all by failing to properly file and serve the complaint upon Defendants and held multiple hearings to ensure that the case would not be dismissed on the technicality of failure to effect service. While the original complaint in this matter was filed on January 20, 2009, Defendants were not properly served until August 25, 2009. Taitz successfully served Defendants only after the Court intervened on several occasions and requested that defense counsel make significant accommodations for her to effect service. Taitz also continually refused to comply with court rules and procedure. Taitz even asked this Court to recuse Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato on the basis that he required her to comply with the Local Rules. See Order Denying Pls.’ Mot. For Modification of Mag. J. Nakazato’s Aug. 6, 2009, Order; Denying Pls.’ Mot. to Recuse Mag. J. Nakazato; and Granting Ex Parte App. for Order Vacating Voluntary Dismissal (Sep. 8, 2009). Taitz also attempted to dismiss two of her clients against their wishes because she did not want to work with their new counsel. See id.

Taitz encouraged her supporters to contact this Court, both via letters and phone calls. It was improper and unethical for her as an attorney to encourage her supporters to attempt to influence this Court's decision. Despite these attempts to manipulate this Court, the Court has not considered any outside pleas to influence the Court's decision.

Additionally, the Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves. This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court.

While the Court seeks to ensure that all interested parties have had the opportunity to be heard, the Court cannot condone the conduct of Plaintiffs’ counsel in her efforts to influence this Court.

222 posted on 10/29/2009 12:28:57 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Elderberry

This is such a load of BS. We were told by the coursts we had to wait until he was elected, now we are told he is elected and it is too late.

“Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins”

There is no justice in the land and the people lament.


224 posted on 10/29/2009 12:29:23 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Elderberry

Civil war is coming...prepare your family...these actions only move us toward the inevitable result at warp speed.

It is unfortunate...if Obama had nothing to hide he could show is birth certificate and this would be over and he would gain huge cred...but since he doesn’t you know there is a smoking gun here and the masses will understand this soon enough and there will be no stopping the public outrage...


233 posted on 10/29/2009 12:39:13 PM PDT by surfer
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To: Elderberry

This is a first. I just heard on the radio that the case was dismissed. I have never heard the BC issue mentioned on the radio news.


261 posted on 10/29/2009 1:05:52 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: All

_____________________________

JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded

Please visit Dr. Orly’s website. Don’t be influenced by Obots.
Do what you can to help her.


301 posted on 10/29/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Elderberry

Judaical Kick the Can. Up it goes, only for Orly that means the 9th Circuit. Bad news. Or maybe good depending on how fast they punt on it. All the courts will punt this issue. Its virtually guaranteed.


346 posted on 10/29/2009 2:03:17 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Elderberry

Reads to me like the judge opened some doors in the future but also sidestepped matters out of fear and tremendous pressure based on “standing”; for example, not much wording on Hawaiian loopholes and revealing a long form birth certificate in limited discovery then he could have dismissed the case and let Congress deal with it.

Anyway bring on the next round. There’s more to come. Obozo the clown isn’t out of the woods yet.


446 posted on 10/29/2009 4:00:23 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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Let’s play a hypothetical. Play along with me on this one.

A President and Vice President are killed. In haste, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court swears in the Speaker of the House as President.

After the swearing in, it is learned that the Chief Justice didn’t ask the age of the Speaker of the House, and just assumed that they were old enough per the Constitution. He just assumed and didn’t know that the new President was NOT qualified due to age.

Now the newly sworn in President CLAIMS that they are old enough, but refuses to release their birth certificate to the public.

Just who has legal authority for review after the Speaker of the House has been sworn in as President? According to this ruling, it isn’t the judicial branch. Because no crime has been committed, the President can’t be impeached, so it isn’t the legislative branch (and because the Speaker of the House is from the majority party, that party controls the House as well). The President is chief executive over the executive branch so they wouldn’t out themselves.

So I ask again, who would have legal authority?

I certainly don’t get it.


466 posted on 10/29/2009 4:58:56 PM PDT by CJacobs (From the Ozark / Clarksville area)
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Leo Donofrio is impressed with Judge Carter's ruling. He said all along this case of Orly's would fail, and now it's quo warranto time. His blog is here: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/judge-carter-the-writ-of-quo-warranto-must-be-brought-within-the-district-of-columbia-because-president-obama-holds-office-within-that-district/

(From Leo's blog) Here is Judge Carter’s correct ruling on the quo warranto issue:

C. Quo Warranto Claims…
The writ of quo warranto must be brought within the District of Columbia because President Obama holds office within that district. The quo warranto provision codified in the District of Columbia Code provides, “A quo warranto may be issued from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States against a person who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military.” D.C. Code §§ 16-3501 – 16-3503. Should a person other than the Attorney General of the United States or the United States Attorney wish to bring a quo warranto claim, that person must receive leave of court to do so. Id. at § 16-3502. This leave of court must be granted, according to the text of the statute, by the District Court for the District of Columbia.

Nothing in today’s ruling appears to question the power of the DC District Court to issue a writ of quo warranto to President Obama which would require him to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President. I must commend Judge Carter for his exercise of judicial restraint on this issue.

518 posted on 10/29/2009 6:46:42 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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OK - if you haven't read the COMPLETE ruling, all 30 pages, then you can not understand how this issue can be resolved. Judge Carter did an excellent job of explaining how each and every point raised by both sides is either valid or not valid. He also pointed out, tactfully, each mistake that Orly made. Hopefully she will learn from her clearly basic incompetence.
For example these quotes from the ruling [brackets, font color blue, and bold emphasis are mine]:
  1. This Court exercised extreme patience when Taitz endangered this case being heard at all by failing to properly file and serve the complaint upon Defendants and held multiple hearings to ensure that the case would not be dismissed on the technicality of failure to effect service. While the original complaint in this matter was filed on January 20, 2009, Defendants were not properly served until August 25, 2009. Taitz successfully served Defendants only after the Court intervened on several occasions and requested that defense counsel make significant accommodations for her to effect service.
  2. Taitz also continually refused to comply with court rules and procedure. Taitz even asked this Court to recuse Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato on the basis that he required her to comply with the Local Rules. See Order Denying Pls.’ Mot. For Modification of Mag. J. Nakazato’s Aug. 6, 2009, Order; Denying Pls.’ Mot. to Recuse Mag. J. Nakazato; and Granting Ex Parte App. for Order Vacating Voluntary Dismissal (Sep. 8, 2009).
  3. Taitz also attempted to dismiss two of her clients against their wishes because she did not want to work with their new counsel.
  4. Taitz encouraged her supporters to contact this Court, both via letters and phone calls. It was improper and unethical for her as an attorney to encourage her supporters to attempt to influence this Court's decision. Despite these attempts to manipulate this Court, the Court has not considered any outside pleas to influence the Court's decision.
  5. “Plaintiffs can and do allege exhaustion of FOIA requirements as a practical and substantive matter.” However, even ignoring the fact that Plaintiffs appear to admit that they have not complied with FOIA requirements in their requests for information, Plaintiffs’ claim fails because FOIA does not apply to Defendants. [Judge now explains how FOIA might be obtained.] FOIA only applies to entities qualifying as an “agency.” 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(2). The statute defines “agency” as, “any executive department, military department, Government corporation, Government controlled corporation, or other establishment in the executive branch of the Government (including the Executive Office of the President), or any independent regulatory agency.” Id. at § 551(1). The Executive Office of the President is an agency within the Executive branch and is a body separate from the President himself. All of the Defendants–President Obama, Michelle Obama, Secretary Clinton, Vice President Biden, and Secretary Gates–are individuals, not agencies. Therefore, Plaintiffs fail to state a claim against these individuals under FOIA and the claim is hereby DISMISSED.
  6. Plaintiffs made overtures at pleading a civil Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (“RICO”) claim under 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961 et seq. against all Defendants. However, the pleading only states that while Plaintiffs had “accumulated several dossiers of evidence” suggesting a civil RICO conspiracy, they were unable to actually set forth a RICO pleading “[b]ecause of the complexity of RICO.” Compl. ¶¶ 123-25. Plaintiffs originally filed this action on January 20, 2009, and the First Amended Complaint at issue was filed on July 15, 2009. Nearly six months was more than sufficient time for Plaintiffs to at least attempt to set forth civil RICO allegations. The failure to do so is inexcusable, [this sounds to me like Judge Carter believes that a properly constructed Rico case might have been sufficient to grant standing, jurisdiction, and justiciability as I sense some disappointment and frustration because this is the only time he so plainly chastised her - but then again, I could be wrong, LOL] and as Plaintiffs have failed to state any claim whatsoever against Defendants Michelle Obama, Clinton, Biden, and Gates, all claims against them are DISMISSED.

I mentioned on an earlier thread that, IMO, a civil case on RICO against Obama, DNC, ACORN, MSM, and Dem leaders seeking documents by subpoena (birth certificate, passports, school records, DNC certification, etc.) as additional evidence showing fraud, collusion and conspiracy could be enough to obtain jurisdiction in any District Court.

Standing might then be easier to obtain showing actual monetary damages, civil rights violations (right to vote, fair elections, intent to defraud through higher taxes and nationalizing select businesses and industries as well as theft, tortious interference with private contracts, etc.). Any executive that has had their pay cut, any auto dealer that lost their dealership, anyone that loses or is in jeopardy of losing their health insurance might qualify.

Justiciability would be simple if requested redress was limited to monetary damages and a finding of Obama not being NBC. Since a District Court can not remove a President from office or declare a President ineligible, that should not be requested. A finding of not being NBC can then be used to pressure Congress for Impeachment or removal of Obama as being unfit for office. Of course we would want this to occur after the new Congress is installed in 2010, which shouldn't be a problem as a RICO trial would probably take at least a year.

557 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:55 PM PDT by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: Elderberry

It wasa kangeroo court. The outcome in all cases is predictable. All the obama regime is doing is playing for time.

The powers that put obama in office already knew all there was to know about him, down to the brand and color of toilet paper he uses before they annointed him.

It is my personal belief and opinion that he was not, at least according to the Constitution, qualified to hold office.

But, the powers that own and hold title to each member of Congress and rule behind the scenes wanted him to be president. And that is how it will stay.


589 posted on 10/30/2009 5:38:53 AM PDT by sport
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MTD = Modern Tool & Die, inc. ??


595 posted on 10/30/2009 7:56:40 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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Metropolitian Transit District??


669 posted on 11/08/2009 4:53:34 PM PST by dalereed
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