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To: count-your-change

That is not true and you know it……………………

In the USSR, Muller supervised a large and productive lab, and organized work on medical genetics. Most of his work involved further explorations of genetics and radiation. There he completed his eugenics book, Out of the Night. By 1936, however, Stalin’s repressive policies and the rise of Lysenkoism was making the USSR an increasingly problematic place to live and work. Muller and much of the Russian genetics community did what they could to oppose Trofim Lysenko and his Larmarckian evolutionary theory, but Muller was soon forced to leave the Soviet Union after Stalin read a translation of his eugenics book and was “displeased by it, and...ordered an attack prepared against it.”[12]

But nice try.


42 posted on 10/28/2009 9:43:37 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; All

Then maybe this is a fraud or I’ve misunderstood what the letter writer was talking about here.

“Hermann J. Muller’s 1936 Letter to Stalin
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
geneticist H.J. Muller to Joseph Stalin advocating the creation of a ... eugenics movement, Jewish scholars, Hermann J. Muller, Joseph Stalin, ...
www.mankindquarterly.org/muellersletter.pdf - Similar
by J Glad - 2003 - Cited by 1 - Related articles - All 3 versions”


46 posted on 10/28/2009 10:01:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; count-your-change
count-your-change asked;

You responded with a cut a paste from a document that indicates that there was indeed a Muller that offered Stalin, or at least promoted the idea of eugenics to Stalin.

A link to the short-cut pdf, which opens in "google docs" which one and all can see is most likely to be the same source that you copied and pasted from (but failed yourself to provide a link to, even as you complain);Herman J. Muller's 1936 letter to Stalin, from The Mankind Quarterly 43(3), Spring 2003 pp 305-318

So the answer is yes, this IS the same Herman J. Muller that you quoted in your post #18

underlining for emphasis my own

Not only was this apparently the same Muller, but it also demonstrates where the logical outcome of strictly materialist thinking leads. It did lead to "eugenics" in Muller's case, although he pitched the idea as a positive, in that it could be used to "help improve" the human race, or in the case of his pitch, at least the Soviet Socialists portion of humanity.

Maybe Lysenco and Lamarck did us all an accidental favor!

136 posted on 10/29/2009 11:53:56 AM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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