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Report: Cash for Clunkers was a lemon
Christian Science Monitor ^ | October 28, 2009 | By Mark Trumbull

Posted on 10/28/2009 5:49:53 PM PDT by Son House

American taxpayers paid a lot of cash for those clunkers: $24,000 for each new car sold, according to a study released Wednesday.

The government could have done almost as well by just giving away cars for free, instead of creating an elaborate incentive program, according to an analysis by the automotive information firm Edmunds.com in Santa Monica, Calif.

... to look at how many people purchased cars that otherwise wouldn’t have been bought. The firm says that number is about 125,000 cars. By that measure, the government spent $24,000 to generate each sale of a new car.

In all, the government spent $3 billion on a program that provided cash toward 690,000 car purchases – about $4,348 per car. That makes 565,000 people who got as much as $4,500 to buy a car they would have bought anyway, according to the Edmunds analysis.

The analysis may dampen views about the effectiveness of a one of the most visible pieces of President Obama’s $787 economic stimulus package, designed to save jobs across the US.

Edmunds’ used a team of statisticians, who examined sales trends for luxury vehicles and others not included in the clunker program. They used those trends to gauge where sales would have been for the industry, absent any stimulus program. These “informed estimates” were independently verified, Edmunds says, by examining transaction data.

Critics of government stimulus programs say they often simply move money from one pocket to another, or perhaps shift the timing of consumer spending, without having a large impact on gross domestic product (GDP).

Jeremy Anwyl, chief executive of Edmunds, says the firm’s study points to one promising conclusion about the economy: Auto sales were already rising from their recession trough even without the clunker program, though they remain well below their pre-recession levels.

(Excerpt) Read more at features.csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhodot; cash; clunkers; edmunds; lemon; miserablefailure; report
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I was thinking is that the inventory car lots weren't selling was finally getting sold. The local lots are full again, but that could have been inventory that was sitting at the factories
1 posted on 10/28/2009 5:49:53 PM PDT by Son House
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To: Son House

I bought a 2009 Yamaha V Star 1300 Tourer.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 5:52:22 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Son House

The clunkers 15 mins of fame is over...


3 posted on 10/28/2009 5:52:22 PM PDT by libs_kma (If you RAM it down our throats in 2009, we're going to SHOVE it up your @$$ in 2010!!!!!)
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To: Son House

Seems to be no limit on the car sales gimmicks as long as it isn’t the car companies that have to pay for them!


4 posted on 10/28/2009 5:54:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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and I fully expect 20% to be repo’d once people can’t make payments..then they’re really in a pickle since they MAY have traded in a PAID FOR clunker, now they have NO wheels and will cry for a bailout from the gov’t...

IMHO..


5 posted on 10/28/2009 5:54:33 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Son House

I believe their estimates of the costs of the health care bills they are trying to pass, too!


6 posted on 10/28/2009 5:54:49 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Eye of Unk

nice bike..


7 posted on 10/28/2009 5:55:16 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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Of course, this study does not address the higher default rate on cars purchased under the CARS program. Another small ‘problem’ of the Obama intelligensia that designed this scheme.


8 posted on 10/28/2009 5:55:24 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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Of course, this study does not address the higher default rate on cars purchased under the CARS program. Another small ‘problem’ of the Obama intelligensia that designed this scheme.


9 posted on 10/28/2009 5:55:30 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Eye of Unk

I bought a Ford Hybrid Escape. Didn’t bother with the C4C program though...my old car didn’t qualify, and the red tape was a nightmare for the dealer.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 5:58:45 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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The government could have done almost as well by just giving away cars for free, instead of creating an elaborate incentive program, according to an analysis by the automotive information firm Edmunds.com in Santa Monica, Calif.

Cash for Clunkers, the Am track of the open highway.

11 posted on 10/28/2009 6:05:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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and I fully expect 20% to be repo’d once people can’t make payments..then they’re really in a pickle since they MAY have traded in a PAID FOR clunker, now they have NO wheels and will cry for a bailout from the gov’t.

On the face of it, borrowing from the Chinese in order to buy cars from the Japanese seems like a very, very stupid idea.

This just confirms the hypothesis.

12 posted on 10/28/2009 6:05:41 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self-Disgust)
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I want a 1974 Dodge Challenger with a 383 HEMI toting a 4 barrel, delayed positraction, and a transmission submitting to a Hurst 4 speed.

Where is my discount damn it!

13 posted on 10/28/2009 6:11:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: IncPen

for a very, very short second, I thought about trading my truck for a new one with the clunkers program..but I didn’t because I was fearful of my employment situation..my fears came true, I was laid off (but have a good bite already) and I just put the payoff on my truck in the mail..

That’s one truck payment back in pocket at the right time...


14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:13:24 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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Also, IIRC, a some of the cars traded in were actually worth more than $4500, AND dealers didn’t discount as much during the program. So, some people probably ended up paying just as much as they would have without the program.


15 posted on 10/28/2009 6:24:50 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: EGPWS
Sweet!

I'll take a 1967 Corvette Convertible. 435 hp 427 cu.in. V8. Black on black on black.

16 posted on 10/28/2009 6:30:01 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: Son House

Tagline!


17 posted on 10/28/2009 6:30:50 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

That’s good!


18 posted on 10/28/2009 6:36:50 PM PDT by Son House (2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Hear and See Democrats put the CON in CONgress)
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To: Son House

Thanks I like your tagline too!


19 posted on 10/28/2009 6:50:48 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: libs_kma

Another example of the government adding value to all that they do.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 6:54:04 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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