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To: autumnraine

Nice try, Autumnraine.

As though dopers smoke their weed because they are taking a principled stand against government overobtrusiveness,

What a joke! They smoke their junk to get high, and when they get busted, I hope they get the book thrown at them.

I don’t enjoy submitting to urinalysis for the reasons stated. BTW, did it ever occur to you that I might be something of a libertarian on that subject? I should be able to sign a sworn statement that I never have, and never will, use an illegal drug, and that should be the end of it. BTW, I’m a JAG legal administrator and before that I was a drug separation board member. No pity on those who popped hot. They knew what they were doing was illegal and they did it anyway and they were not doing so on principle.

But because members of the military fire weapons (like me), fly aircraft (like me), and operate heavy tactical vehicles (like me), and because of our drug-ridden common culture that says using illegal drugs is morally OK and should not be prosecuted, we who are held to a higher standard (call me elitist) are forced to maintain good order and discipline through methods such as involuntary urinalysis.

Are you a Vietnam veteran? Have you ever been required to submit to urinalysis? My answer to both is yes. But answer no to either and the worth of your aforestated comments will be obvious.

;^)


17 posted on 10/28/2009 4:18:29 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: elcid1970

Like anyone gives a damn that you have to take a drug test. If you don’t like it get discharged from the military. If you didn’t like it why did you re-up?


19 posted on 10/28/2009 4:37:13 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: elcid1970

“As though dopers smoke their weed because they are taking a principled stand against government overobtrusiveness,”

What? Who said they smoke weed to take a stance against government? I think this is that ‘strawman’ everybody talks about.

And no one said people in the military shouldn’t be in trouble for doing illegal drugs. Some of us think that some drugs shouldn’t be illegal. If that’s your argument, simply that it’s ‘illegal’, then it isn’t much of an argument when the issue is making it NOT illegal.

Are you sure your name isn’t John Kerry? WTF does being a Vietnam Vet have to do with the price of tea in China? For your information, I was born AFTER the war. So unless I’m a reincarnated deceased soldier, no, I wasn’t in Vietnam. My dad was, but I still don’t know what that has to do with this discussion.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 4:42:22 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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