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To: PenetratingMndFlame
This is a bunch of BS. Cite the exact quote in which Federalist Paper you refer to. What, are you saying the Constitution says the president must be born with the United States, and not a “natural born” citizen?

The former is very precise. In Federalist Papers, the writers said they purposely used the latter as a vague term that Congress would later define.

129 posted on 10/28/2009 8:41:05 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

Please see “http://www.worldandi.com/subscribers/feature_detail.asp?num=26823";

Note LAST bullet point of current U.S. law of various scenarios that establishes who is a natural born citizen, which makes Obama one, if the allegations were true that he was born abroad and not in Hawaii: “Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).” His mother certainly meets that criteria of being the establishing parent.

The site starts with Constitutional section of natural born, goes on to Federalist Papers saying term is undefined, and with courts starting off saying it is undefined, and then goes on to describe how both federal courts and Congress legally defined ‘natural born.’ Listen, I think Obama and most liberals ought to be arrested for perjury or whatever for falsely declaring their allegiance to the Constitution when they were sworn in, but let it be settled that Obama qualifies for the presidency as a natural born citizen.

This legal Web site says:

“U.S. Code definition

Title 8, Section 1401, of the U.S. Code provides the current definition for a natural-born citizen.

• Anyone born inside the United States and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, which exempts the child of a diplomat from this provision

• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).”

Read the rest of the site if you want to follow the gyrations, but again, the Founding Fathers knew they were leaving it up to Congress to define ‘natural born,” and never said ANYWHERE it meant being born within the U.S.

Didn’t we wager a million dollars on this?


160 posted on 10/29/2009 12:12:09 PM PDT by PenetratingMndFlame (http://www.penetratingmindflame.com/)
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