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To: ElectricStrawberry; Mad Dawg

How about if you reply to what I asked instead of ranting.

Where is the quote from the Vatican stating that married couples cannot use condoms for self defense if one partner is HIV infected?

You’re saying that telling people to remain within marriage for sex will prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS, is not correct?

What planet are you on? Must be the planet “Liberal” where people must rut like rams and no one has self control.
Oh, oh yeah, I get it. Your quote of

“will still........behave like people.”

shows it all. People are not animals. Some of us have the intelligence to realize that.


132 posted on 10/29/2009 8:31:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
OK....what's the Vatican's stance on artificial contraception? I'm not privy to internal e-mails from the Pope and you've clearly wanted to control where I would get any information from, so what source will you accept?

How about the VATICAN through the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

Fecundity is a gift, an end of marriage, for conjugal love naturally tends to be fruitful. A child does not come from outside as something added on to the mutual love of the spouses, but springs from the very heart of that mutual giving, as its fruit and fulfillment. So the Church, which is "on the side of life"150 teaches that "it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life."151 "This particular doctrine, expounded on numerous occasions by the Magisterium, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage act."

Shall I snip out the particular phrase?

it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life

Need it bold to see it?

it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life

Did the Church recently lift the ban on artificial contraception? A married couple wearing a condom are not having sex for procreation of human life.

You’re saying that telling people to remain within marriage for sex will prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS, is not correct?

I finally get it.......you are stuck in a personal relationship mentality and HIV/AIDS "in the individual"....whereas my training comes from looking at everything in a POPULATION. You might get a couple or individual to behave as you wish with whatever brainwashing you want or attempt....you will NEVER get a population to do so. Mayhaps a class in epidemiology is in order.

In addition, you also forget, if you ever knew, that viruses have the ability to mutate and adapt to survive. As in, African HIV is not the same as American HIV....African HIV variants happen to pass through heterosexual sex much easier than American variants. American variants tend to require a much higher infectious dose than is available from heterosexual sex.

Go ahead....call me a liberal again....might get you somewhere.....might save a life. Typical tactic of a loser over at the DU. RACIST!!! LIBERAL!!!! NAZI!!!! "You sound like a fill-in-the-blank-with-supposed-membership-in-the-opposition."

People are not animals.

People are animals, complete with animalistic behaviors. Mayhaps a class in behavioral psychology is in order.....yo know, to have to be educated before speaking.

Some of us have the intelligence to realize that.

Some of us can be willingly umneducated, meanwhile, people die because you cannot control their behaviors.

136 posted on 10/29/2009 9:32:56 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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