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To: mainepatsfan; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I will copy my prediction I made yesterday. Like I said, this is fun to watch, we didnt have FNC or MSNBC in 1993+1994 and I had to depend on Rush.

Our best bet is to egg on both sides of democrats to hold the line. MSNBC progressives like Schulz and Maddow are actually calling for no reform without the Public Plan (now called the consumer option by Pelosi LOL) We need them again to screw things up.

Prediction: "Reid is just responding to pressure from the progressives running the train to get the Public Plan on the floor" . "When this bill fails (which Reid , Pelosi, Obama know it will) they will tell the progressives they tried but the evil forces : FNC, Health Insurance companies, Doctors, Chamber of Commerce, Glenn Beck, and Rush all played dirty. They will say 'the only way to foil them' is pass a compromise that Sen Snow will vote for(to give cover to moderates) . Maybe the trigger version. They will say 'Only that will foil those evil greedy insurance companies and the rich. We have to pull together and pass something for the team.' This current bill wont pass without Sen Snow cover and thank God she see's through the opt out scam. "

54 posted on 10/27/2009 12:40:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

“which Reid , Pelosi, Obama know it will”

I don’t think Pelosi “knows” this at all. I think she shares the belief of many progressives that this is really a good idea and that she needs to “force” Senate to “do the right thing.” I think that she fully expects Senators, when jammed into a corner, to choose what’s good for Obama over their own political survival. In this regard, I believe her ideological blinders have made her delusional about political reality.

But whether they do or they don’t behave as she hopes/expects, I think she regards her hands are clean: if Obamacare fails, it will either be because the president was a weenie (unable to arm-twist Senators into doing his bidding the way a “strong” president like LBJ would have done) or Reid was a weenie (unable to do the same). When things hit the fan in November 2010, her take-home lesson will be that Democrats lost power because they lacked boldness, NOT because they were trying to foist on the American public something voters didn’t want.

Go, Nancy, go! Her recalcitrance on this point is our best hope for Obamacare to implode due to dissension among the ranks of Democrats.


58 posted on 10/27/2009 12:57:01 PM PDT by DrC
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