Posted on 10/27/2009 8:11:33 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Citations? That’s not how science works. In here, we take statements out of context and parrot stuff from AIG and ICR. THAT’S how you do the science.
BTW - I like your tagline.
“At least you have the “run to mommy” act down pat. Can’t think for yourself?”
You’re a bigoted immature troll. Plain and simple.
Coming from and ignorant boob of a crevo, I’ll take that as a compliment.
So do all my clients, some of which are surveyors themselves that call me when they hit a snag that they can’t handle themselves.
“Coming from and ignorant boob of a crevo, I’ll take that as a compliment.”
Keep the insults coming, Troll.
Still waiting for creationist researchers to explain how archaeopteryx can have flight feathers but not be a bird.
Just returning the favor, Luddite.
“And only the Designer has the password to change the DNA.”
DNA is already programmed with a wide range of variation. Sometimes traits are selected and sometimes they remain dormant. Environment may play a role. If a pack of dogs live in a cold region then the genes for long hair may become dominant for example. The information was already there for long hair. After breeding together with other long haired dogs over time the information for short hair can be bred out.
Some traits can be selected by humans by breeding certain dogs together. This leads to a loss of genetic information which is how we end up with a pure breed. To get away from the pure breed you have to reintroduce the information. IOW, breed a pure bred with another dog.
Thanks about my tagline. It wasn’t original. I stole it from a friend.
“Just returning the favor, Luddite.”
Oh, whatever you do please stop calling me a Luddite - I really don’t want to be associated with the 19th century British.
LOL.
Use a different book to teach your kiddies about genetics and biology, because you are wrong.
Just because selection can be used by intelligent agents to shape a species into desirable or beneficial forms; does not mean in any way shape or form that selective pressure upon genetic variation is not necessary and sufficient to explain the common descent of species without the direct intervention of a “designer” (wink wink).
You need to get serious and post an actual link to the contention that you stated, denied you said, admitted you said, reiterated... and now claim that you do not need to source.
Will a creationist please step up to the plate and have the cojones to disagree with the creationist geocentrist on this thread?!
Pretty please?! ONE of you MUST certainly accept the fact that sun does not orbit the Earth.
I beg of you, restore my faith in humankind.
“ONE of you MUST certainly accept the fact that sun does not orbit the Earth.”
Does someone on this thread believe that?
Would you care to refute my statement or just make bold assertions?
BTW, don’t worry about what I teach my children. They aren’t your concern. You aren’t paying for their education.
The concept of intelligent design is not limited genetics. Your example of bicycles and airplanes are significant examples of intelligent design. The bicycle and airplane are a product of intelligent design. Intelligent people have been given credit for designing those products. In order for you to refute the concept of intelligent design you must demonstrate that the bicycle and airplane came from no where and there was no intelligent designer of the the products. To date you have not understood ID unless you actually do believe that airplanes and bicycles appeared from no where with no designer involved. Additionally you will need to agree that the if there was a designer the designer was not intelligent. Your reference to dog breeding essentially suffers because without intelligent design those breeds of dogs would never occur by natural selection. If you have taken a genetics fruit fly lab you would clearly understand what happens to dogs and fruit flies that have undergone intelligent design and allowed to return to natural selection. If you do not enjoy the history of participating in a fruit fly lab it easy to get the point, observe the neighbor dogs off spring when intelligent design is no longer imposed on the breeding process. This is only an attempt to further your understand of ID and is not a personal attack. If you wish to continue the discussion it would be agreeable if you were to drop the name calling (â€idioticâ€) and personal attracts. I believe it is ok on these forms to disagree but not to be disagreeable. If these ground rules are not to you liking then we should do other things with our time.
Is it fair for us to assume that english was not your birth tongue?
You appear to be way, WAY out of your depth here. Your contentions are devoid of any research or logic and really do sound like a 15 year old’s refutations. I don’t mean to offend, but that’s the way I see it.
Note: Airplanes and bicycles do not produce offspring. I know it was used as an example of a progression of a “kind,” (to use a creationist term), but it wasn’t meant as a direct correlation.
You seem hung-up on the idea that human-led selective breeding is so-called “Intelligent Design” and therefore changes in allele frequencies through time do not happen naturally, as a result of undirected selective pressures. I’m sorry, one does not follow the other. Not even close.
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