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To: Carry_Okie
>>Looks to me like tribalism sir.

Obviously, but AMERICA is a Republic - not a Tribe.

Thus it says E PLURIBUS UNUM  on top of the Capitol

not

E PLURIBUS TRIBAL BALKINZATIONUM

“WE MIGHT AS WELL REQUIRE A MAN TO WEAR STILL THE COAT WHICH FITTED HIM WHEN A BOY

AS CIVILIZED SOCIETY TO REMAIN EVER UNDER THE REGIMEN OF THEIR BARBAROUS ANCESTORS”
—Thomas Jefferson.

The purpose of this Republic, this Governance rested upon a Legal Framework, being to protect the INDIVIDUAL from subjugation by the collective - whether that collective be mercantile, religious, Tribal, or other in nature.

“TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men”

If the reset button on American governance is going to be pushed, the Phoenix rises Here, where the Declaration of Independence is carved in stone upon the wall:


63 posted on 10/27/2009 1:40:26 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Obviously, but AMERICA is a Republic - not a Tribe.

Do I deserve such condescending tripe?

The Levitical plan for Israel was to be a nation of tribes spreading from the Nile to the Euphrates. Apparently you missed that.

Thus it says E PLURIBUS UNUM on top of the Capitol E PLURIBUS TRIBAL BALKINZATIONUM

It sure as heck didn't mean "from many individuals, one nation." The motto speaks of a union of states, and hence federalism. Interesting also is that so much of the Constitution was from the Iroquois, but I digress.

Strange that you argue from individualism, and thence to the state. Did you know that this is a central tenet of fascism? My point was that extended family loyalty is clearly central to the exercise of liberty, a principle that is woefully missing in the discourse of individualism and one also having powerful military advantages. Your disparagement of tribalism as inherently barbarous is misplaced, especially considering the tribal intellectual sources of that republic you've raised to the level of borderline graven image.

65 posted on 10/27/2009 2:13:44 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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