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Ministers warn of poll boost for BNP after Question Time {UK British National Party]
Guardian UK ^ | 23 Oct 2009 | Nicholas Watt

Posted on 10/26/2009 6:27:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

• Party claims biggest ever recruitment night
• BBC feared far-right victory in high court
• Griffin attacks capital as 'no longer British'

The British National party will receive a pre-general election boost in the opinion polls, ministers fear, after more than 8 million people watched the far-right leader Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time on Thursday evening.

As the party claimed that a record 3,000 people had registered to join its ranks in the biggest recruitment night in its history, Lord Mandelson warned that Griffin's exposure would produce "a bubble in the opinion polls for the BNP". He reflected fears across the mainstream political spectrum that the BNP had received a once-in-a-generation PR opportunity.

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The Brits are increasingly fed up. If the "Conservatives" don't adopt much of the BNP's agenda, they may see the BNP scoring some significant wins in the upcoming election.
1 posted on 10/26/2009 6:27:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

video!?


2 posted on 10/26/2009 6:28:51 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Please be more specific—you can’t mean withdrawing from the “illegal” and “immoral” wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, do you?


3 posted on 10/26/2009 6:30:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Mandelson's immediate fears were backed up by a poll carried out after Question Time which showed 22% of voters would consider voting BNP in a local, European or general election – including 4% who said they would "definitely" consider backing the party, 3% who would "probably" consider it, and 15% who said they were "possible" BNP voters.

This is actually pretty high for a party that is as thoroughly reviled as the BNP, and may be under-reported due to people being hesitant to admit what they really think to pollsters.

4 posted on 10/26/2009 6:30:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Sorry, but that doesn’t answer my question: are you suggesting that the Tories adopt the position that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and “illegal,” and “immoral,” according to this loose band of fascists?


7 posted on 10/26/2009 6:48:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“If the “Conservatives” don’t adopt much of the BNP’s agenda, they may see the BNP scoring some significant wins in the upcoming election”

The BNP is a socialist party. It draws from the traditional “working class” party, Labour, much more than from the Conservatives. Think “National Socialism”.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 6:50:54 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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The various forces opposed to the politcally correct totalitarian state being erected by the mainstream parties that allow EU domination need to find unity.

It may not be physical unity but some sort of vote sharing deal where BNP runs in the north and the UKIP runs in the south with other smaller Christian groups included in some constituencies.

Otherwise, none of the smaller parties will get House of Commons representation in the next election.


9 posted on 10/26/2009 6:53:35 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan)
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The BNP is fiscally left-wing and a big proponent of the paternalistic state; pretty much in every way antithetical to liberty. Combine that with their proud racism (not the faux “racism” label given to anti-welfarists in America) and antisemitism, and you are getting very close to a dictionary definition of National Socialism.

Inviting entire generations of perpetual welfare dependents (self-correcting by elimination of the guaranteed government benefits which attract the parasites), coddling criminals, diminishing the role of personal responsibility, expanding the domain of social collectivization, and other short-sighted policies have left Britain in such a dire state that it is not shocking that the European experience of 70 years ago is being repeated (people switching effortlessly between the twin Hegelian camps of fascism and communism) there. The slaves appear to want merely a different master.

Get out while you still can.


10 posted on 10/26/2009 6:58:29 AM PDT by M203M4 (Durn it! Every time I go out boating, I lose another one!)
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To: I Shall Endure
What is driving the growing influence of the BNP is the issue of immigration. It is having a similar impact across Europe and the US. National identity, culture, and language are at stake as massive, rapid demographic changes are taking place primarily due to immigration.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 306 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 133 million to 439 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.975 percent (2009 estimate), principally due to immigration.

Immigration, legal and illegal, has had and will continue to have a major and far-reaching impact across a broad spectrum of existential challenges that confront this nation, e.g., national security, the economy/global competitiveness, jobs, health care, taxes, energy independence, education, entitlement reform, law enforcement, social welfare programs, physical infrastructure, the environment, civil liberties, and a continued sense of national identity/shared sense of endeavor. Immigration policy is the defining issue of our time with enormous implications for the future of this nation and the preservation of our patrimony. Changes to our existing immigration policies should be an integral part of the solutions to our problems. Yet, rarely will you read or hear immigration policy linked to these challenges by the political and media elites. Instead, legal immigration has become the third rail of American politics—for Republicans only.

12 posted on 10/26/2009 7:03:26 AM PDT by kabar
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are you suggesting that the Tories adopt the position that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and “illegal,” and “immoral,” according to this loose band of fascists?

I might have missed the part where he said that they were "immoral" as distinct from "not in British interests". Got a link?

13 posted on 10/26/2009 7:04:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: M203M4

“I don’t like the sound of ‘ese ‘ere ‘Boncentration Bamps.’”


16 posted on 10/26/2009 7:18:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Reading the section, the BNP's objection to the wars relate to the absence of observable vital Brit interests
Refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peacekeeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake;
While I could argue that Britain does have an interest in seeing al-Queda eliminated, I see their viewpoint in not having an interest in long-term "nation-building".
17 posted on 10/26/2009 7:21:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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In a world in which irreplaceable natural resources are being depleted at an alarming rate we have a duty to our children and future generations to move towards economic growth which is socially, environmentally and economically sustainable in the long-term, rather than the present ‘boom and bust’ policies.

Yup, these guys are real winners . . . tax-cutters.
18 posted on 10/26/2009 7:22:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I can't argue with a single point in that. Not one.
19 posted on 10/26/2009 7:22:54 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Reading the section, the BNP's objection to the wars relate to the absence of observable vital Brit interests.

Beautiful logic, isn't it? Simply declare all wars short of a German invasion fleet sailing across the Channel not in the "national interest."

20 posted on 10/26/2009 7:25:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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