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I Won't Rule Out Converting To Catholicism, Says Bishop [1000 Anglican Clergy May Defect!]
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | October 24th 2009

Posted on 10/24/2009 9:29:43 PM PDT by Steelfish

I Won't Rule Out Converting To Catholicism, Says Bishop

By MAIL ON SUNDAY REPORTER 25th October 2009

Outspoken: Dr Michael Nazir-Ali could set a trend

A controversial bishop yesterday became the most high-profile cleric to hint he might convert to the Roman Catholic Church following the Pope’s offer to disaffected Anglicans.

The former Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, an outspoken figure in the Church of England, said: ‘I won’t rule it out or rule it in. I wait with interest to see what the details of the offer are.’

Any suggestion that Dr Nazir-Ali, who retired in September, could join the Catholic Church would encourage others to follow.

The Vatican said last week it would allow Anglican clergy and worshippers to enter into full unity with the Catholic Church, prompting speculation that up to 1,000 clergy could defect.

Church of England traditionalists have been warning for years that issues such as the consecration of women bishops and acceptance of gay clergy would cause splits.

Dr Nazir-Ali was a keynote speaker yesterday at a London conference of 500 traditionalists, who welcomed Pope Benedict XVI’s initiative. They voted in favour of consulting parishes on the next move.

But they said until details of the apostolic constitution decree were published, laying down the terms of the offer, they could not make any firm decisions.

The former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey of Clifton, branded as ‘inexcusable’ the Vatican’s failure to warn his successor, Dr Rowan Williams, of the plans. But Dr Williams insisted the development did not damage relations between the churches.

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1 posted on 10/24/2009 9:29:43 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

That would send such a powerful message...


2 posted on 10/24/2009 9:40:53 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Steelfish

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3 posted on 10/24/2009 9:42:34 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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4 posted on 10/24/2009 9:42:55 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Steelfish

Not surprised Biship Nazir-Ali may convert .
He has been spot on with earlier comments with
the Church in England and other issues.


5 posted on 10/24/2009 9:43:25 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Steelfish

Wow. First the Bishop of Chichester and now Bishop Nazir-Ali (one of the most vocal of the Anglican bishops to stand up against the ABC’s call for shariah law in England, by the way). I wonder if the Bishop of Durham, N.T. Wright, would come along, although I suspect he is not inclined Romeward. He wrote a great book defending the historicity of the Resurrection, however.


6 posted on 10/24/2009 9:43:35 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

Time for the Catholic Church to administer the “Last Rites” to All of Protestantism.


7 posted on 10/24/2009 9:45:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

The Holy Father’s action is totally consistent with his line of thinking. His opposition to the liberals in the Church is that insistence that practices long established cannot be overturned without scandal, that Vatican II was not a “new Pentecost” but entirely consistent with the long history of the Church. He recognizes the catholic elements in Anglicanism, which gained new strength with the Oxford Movement. He seems to have found a way to accept the tradition of a married priesthood simply by reinterpreting it to conform with a similar tradition in the Eastern Churches. His appreciation of beauty in the liturgy cannot not have failed to make him all that more appreciative of the beauty of the Anglican liturgy. Even an imperfect knowledge of English allows him to compare it with the banal English translation of the new Latin Liturgy and of the NAB.


8 posted on 10/24/2009 9:49:55 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: RobbyS

Yes- and with the limitation that there would be no married Bishops allowed.


9 posted on 10/24/2009 9:53:27 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Rowan Williams is too busy talking about the positives of having Sharia law in the UK.


10 posted on 10/24/2009 9:57:49 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: Steelfish
Not so soon. The evangelical movement has been a great source of vitality for the Church. The millions of Christians attending their local meeting houses are people of good and often great faith. It is up to us to prove to them that we have something more to offer them than they know. In a way, they are catecumens. Many of them could worship with us right up and through the Creed. Sadly they cannot join us for communion, because they do not see the Lord dwelling among us.
11 posted on 10/24/2009 9:58:20 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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If they don’t accept the Catholic Catechism, the door will be closed to them as it must be.


12 posted on 10/24/2009 10:03:22 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: RobbyS

If they don’t accept the Catholic Catechism, the door will be closed to them as it must be.


13 posted on 10/24/2009 10:04:46 PM PDT by Steelfish
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Let's wait for the details/conditions. Those who went first may have agreed to conditions others will not accept. (Advice from my Rector.)

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14 posted on 10/24/2009 10:11:26 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Steelfish

If this happens, attending Anglican Mass on Sunday would “count” toward the weekly obligation for a Catholic to attend Mass. Correct?


15 posted on 10/24/2009 10:12:09 PM PDT by babylucas (Impeach President ACORN)
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Not so fast. They must subscribe to the Catholic Catechism- Recite the Credo, and of course believe in The Holy Eucharist as the True Body and Blood of the Christ Under the External Appearances of Bread and Wine.


16 posted on 10/24/2009 10:14:47 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: babylucas

That would be correct. Assisting at the liturgy of any church in communion with the successor of Peter, regardless of rite, use or form, would satisfy one’s Sunday obligation.


17 posted on 10/24/2009 10:15:44 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Steelfish

First get the CATHOLICS to accept it.


18 posted on 10/24/2009 10:17:14 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: sionnsar

You’re right that we need to wait and see, and perhaps there will not be the tide of converts that some expect. I think probably TAC and some Anglo-Catholics in England are the most likely to take advantage. Most Evangelicals will likely remain in ACNA in the US or otherwise in the Continuum, or perhaps remaining pockets of TEC or COE that are less liberal. I do get the sense that in England, at least, the general body of Anglo-Catholics really are bitter about how the vote for women’s episcopal ordination went last year, with practically no concern for providing acceptable accommodation for them. I would not be surprised if much of FIF UK and the flying bishops came into a new Catholic structure. I’ll be fascinated to see what sort of liturgy or liturgies will be adopted.


19 posted on 10/24/2009 10:26:09 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: RobbyS

Well I understand. Like the RINOs, there are CINOs


20 posted on 10/24/2009 10:26:20 PM PDT by Steelfish
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