Posted on 10/24/2009 9:19:39 PM PDT by Steelfish
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: If they make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.
He will find that being an authentic layperson or priest in the Church beats the tar out of being a bishop in some bogus outfit. I miss a lot of pastoral stuff, but, believe me, being Catholic is better.
Right choice.
King Henry the 8th.....EPIC FAIL
I haven't seen any reaction of this offer from African Anglicans, who are far more traditional than the British.
I’ve seen a lot of obviously younger posters (age <= 55+) on FR the last few months. easy to ID! Glad to see younger folks like me are just as conservative and not falling for leftist tripe. Older folks take notice!
Now if only all the gay priests, bishops, cardinals and lesbian nuns would convert to the Anglican church.. life would be better. We could see how the “homosexual church” and the Roman Catholic Church do. Maybe the communists in the RC church could take a hike as well.
I think there will still be an Evangelical presence, either within or outside the Church of England. They don’t care so much about women’s ordination and are not likely to go Romeward. They may split from the COE however if it continues its liberal tilt. As for TEC in the USA, I think they are so far gone, the Evangelicals will head for ACNA and the Anglo-Catholics will head for Rome, leaving just the liberals.
Yes- that would be nice. Indeed, return the Cathedrals and Basilicas confiscated under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I and bring back the sacred iconic imagery!
John Paul was a tough act to follow. But Benedict continues to impress. He is no less a visionary than his predecessor.
- JP
The disintegration of the worldwide Anglican Communion (which was never an official, formal structure but a comparatively recent "let's have tea with Mother Church" every decade) was inevitable once its members decided not to significantly remonstrate apostacy in its ranks. It was not in their charter to begin with, but for whatever reason (I can guess some of it, but whatever...) they did not fully rise to the occasion.
IMHO the wwAC as we once knew it is over. The roots of its blowup are different from those that sparked the Reformation, but no less divisive, and will no doubt split the Anglican church along its age-old catholic and protestant divisions.
But some of us are not going away; we will still be as we see ourselves, the via media between Rome and the Protestants; my own parish is home to a number of Rome-Protestant marriages. Despised and denigrated by many on both sides, we still hope to bridge the gulf and see the Bride of Christ reunited.
The failure of some churches wearing a particular label, or the failure of some of their members, should not an indictment of all; if it were so, all Christendom would be suspect or worse.
We are in a time of change, and in such times everything is messy and confused. Fifty or a hundred years out things should look very different and settled, and then the historians can write an "accurate" history. (One which will not likely contain today's confused view, however.)
Just my humble opinion.
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Wasn’t the Anglican church essentially formed by a guy who murdered his wives? Not a very inspiring start.
/agree. Benedict is an insanely smart man. He is slowly ratcheting up his papacy. He may not get to JPII level of popularity, but he continues to impress, given the low expectations by just about everyone.
If he can bring about reunification with both the Anglican and the Orthodox churches, I predict he will be called Benedict the Great.
Well, he may have had hopes that it wouldn't disintegrate, but I saw very little action by the CoE to accomodate the concerns of conservatives in their ranks.
Yes. given the general anti-Christian/Catholic vibe throughout America and Europe, Benedict could certainly coax (if that’s not too vulgar of a phrase for the diplomacy involved) many of the Anglicans and Orthodox churches back into the fold.
Heh heh.
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