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Freakonomics Revenge: Authors Crediting Abortion for Crime Drop Now Blame Feminism for Society Ills
Newsbusters ^ | October 24, 2009 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:30:56 PM PDT by Rufus2007

We'll have to wait and see if the so-called outside-the-box thinking once praised by some of liberal media elites will get the same reception with this latest edition.

In 2005, University of Chicago economist Steven Levitt and New York Times journalist Stephen J. Dubner released the book "Freakonomics" that provided cover for the pro-abortion movement in America by suggesting legalized abortion lowered crime and had a positive impact on society.

However, in their new book "SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance," Levitt and Dubner blame what is generally accepted to be a liberal cause, women's liberation, for the rise of high-end prostitution in America and a failing public education system. The authors appeared on ABC's Oct. 23 "20/20" to elaborate on their theories.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; dubner; economics; feminism; freakonomics; levitt; roeeffect; stephendubner; stevenlevitt; superfreakonomics
I knew feminists were up to no good...
1 posted on 10/24/2009 4:30:56 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Putting a lot of criminals in jail lowered the crime rate.


2 posted on 10/24/2009 4:36:57 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Rufus2007

I thought this was a particularly juicy quote:
“America’s education system has been split into two markets - the haves and the have-nots. At the bottom are mostly public schools, horribly broken since the ‘70s.”

This is exactly why we don’t want/need a public health plan:
public schools aren’t keeping private schools on their toes with innovations in cost-cutting or excellence. It’s quite the opposite, and naive to think that a public health plan option would be any different. Yet Nancy Pelosi and now Harry Reid keep insisting that such an option be included as part of Obamacare.


3 posted on 10/24/2009 4:43:04 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I know liberals who believe abortion is responsible for the drop in crime. They will only say it very privately and when no persons of color are present.


4 posted on 10/24/2009 4:44:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Mr. Flyingsaucerballoonboymediawhoreman - this Bud's for you!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Putting a lot of criminals in jail lowered the crime rate.

The book Freedomnomics by John Lott points this out. It also points out that abortions were going on even before Roe vs Wade. Even legitimately by doctors in states where abortion was legal.

I think "Freakonomics" is gee whiz, parody garbage, but this new finding from these clowns is rather amusing.

5 posted on 10/24/2009 4:53:46 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: colorado tanker
I know liberals who believe abortion is responsible for the drop in crime. They will only say it very privately and when no persons of color are present.

One other thing, the Liberals, including Leavitt, don't have the guts to say that it is abortion of black babies that lowers the crime rate. John Lott of Freedomnomics takes issue with this; however, when Bill Bennet accepted the Liberal view on this and mentioned that abortion was still evil even if it lowered crime, the Liberals savaged Dr. Bennet even though he spoke what they were all thinking.

6 posted on 10/24/2009 4:57:52 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Rufus2007
It has always been my belief that the decline of the public education system was a direct result of feminism.

When it became easier for bright, talented women to get higher paying jobs in corporate American rather than teaching, the best and brightest stopped teaching (a generalization, I know, so don't flame me about your brilliant mother who is a teacher).

My grandmother was a brilliant woman with a Master Degree in Education who spent her career teaching (from the 1920's to the 1960's) Home Economics to high school girls in a West Texas town of 1200. Were she alive today and at the same age, she would probably be a doctor.

Don't misunderstand and think I wish women weren't in the workplace - I'm just stating an obvious result of the changes which have taken place in our society.

7 posted on 10/24/2009 5:06:07 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Barack Obama - the Teachers Pet of international socialists.)
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To: Stepan12

It is true, black children are aborted at a much higher rate than any other race. Poor little fellers.


8 posted on 10/24/2009 5:07:52 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: colorado tanker
I know liberals who believe abortion is responsible for the drop in crime. They will only say it very privately and when no persons of color are present.

Frankly, I think one of them sits on the Supreme Court-- Ruth "Bad-Girl" Ginsburg. How else does one explain her bizarre remarks about the kind of people who would be aborted because of Roe v. Wade?

9 posted on 10/24/2009 5:13:52 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Rufus2007

Its really a rather ignorant argument by the Freakonomics authors.

By about 1977, roughly one third of American pregnancies were ending in Abortion. 20 years later, that age demographic of 18-25 was beginning to emerge. This age group commmits the overwhelming majority of murders and crimes.

By annihilating this age group it was inevitable that there would be a bubble of reduced crime.

It really proves nothing about abortion and a lot about killing lots of people.


10 posted on 10/24/2009 5:15:34 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: lonestar67

You know, if we killed everyone, there’d be no more crime at all. No hunger or disease, either.


11 posted on 10/24/2009 5:21:43 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Marie2

I think the Judge Dredd comic book already addressed that...

However, the writers of Freakonomics admitted that it was a VERY inefficient way of reducing crime. I forget the number of abortions for every murder prevented, but it was very high.
They dodged the question about the dead baby, though.


12 posted on 10/24/2009 5:31:48 PM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: TexasNative2000
"brilliant woman"

You make a good point, but I think one of the real problems since the seventies concerning decline in public school performance is the lessening of the standards and discipline. High standards and tough discipline make better students. I went to parochial schools grades 1-12, but I remember my public school friends recounting stories of some of their tough teachers who wouldn't take crap from the students. And the parents backed the teachers. Those days seem to be gone.

13 posted on 10/25/2009 3:58:22 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Rufus2007

The NEA is to blame.


14 posted on 10/25/2009 3:59:14 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Lysandru

Good point.


15 posted on 10/25/2009 1:40:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Mr. Flyingsaucerballoonboymediawhoreman - this Bud's for you!)
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To: driftless2
...is the lessening of the standards and discipline.

Those school standards and discipline, along with morality, should not have been lowered anyway. Why?

16 posted on 10/25/2009 5:35:14 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: colorado tanker
Abortion was responsible for the drop in crime, but morally that doesn’t matter. You’re not allowed to kill babies just because some or many of them may likely end up being criminals.
17 posted on 11/02/2009 11:43:34 AM PST by utahagen
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To: lonestar67
In fairness to the Freaknomics guys, they never argued that abortion was “good” because it resulted in lower crime rates fifteen to twenty years after Roe v Wade. Pro-Life and Pro-CHoice people both attacked the freakonomics guys, but they made a strong case based on real statistics. Bill bennett is right: abortion probably did kill-off many future criminals, but that doesn't justify abortion.
18 posted on 11/02/2009 11:46:38 AM PST by utahagen
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