What Do Americans Believe About Creationism and Evolution?</

john in springfield | 10/23/2009 | jis (vanity)

[editor-surveyor]

There is no list of what was on or not on the ark.

[RightWingNilla]

Interesting. I suppose its possible that all of the seeds (ancestors of modern plants) that were not taken aboard the ark simply floated for the length of the flood. I am not a botanist though.

Now when you say obviously vegetation had begun to grow, you say this because there had to be food for the animals to eat right?

[whattajoke]

Hey GGG, looks like whattaschmuck really opened up a can of whoop ass on himself this time!

He just keeps steppin in it and now he's left just wiping it all over himself!

University of Connecticut, Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicne, New York Medical College.

How about you, whatta-Sludgemouth?

I'm pretty sure I never wrote of my academic accomplishments. You did. I asked a simple question. You answered in your unique way. Thank you.

I've read innumerable times here that people with college degrees are all ivory tower liberals. While you and I know that's not true, it must irk you to know that people often feel that way about those with advanced degrees. Even if NY Medical College is a Catholic school, IIRC.

I was merely curious. You often boast of your accomplishments and your salary. I've been boastful about neither here - and as a result, no one has asked me about that part of my life.

[RightWingNilla]

There is no list of what was on or not on the ark.

I know there was no actual list. The passage from Genesis highlighted above though suggests that all of the animals that were in existence at the time, made their way onto the ark. Again, unless I am missing something, this is the way I interpret it. Am I in error somewhere?

[editor-surveyor]

What did the dove bring back?

[count-your-change]

What plants growing at that time would or would not survive isn’t known but seeds? Perhaps, but as I note, the Bible is just silent on that. Since Noah became a farmer with a vineyard after coming out maybe uneaten grain or perhaps vines survived the waters? The Bible just doesn’t say.

[AndrewC]

Perhaps you just left this data out of your 'survey' on purpose?

Apples/oranges. If anything those numbers show a drop in people who believe in evolution, because the previous answers allowed a person to have belief in evolution with God guiding the process. Therefore you would add two separate groups to end up with believers of evolution, those that believed God did not have a hand and those that believed he did. The last gallop poll had the total at 50%.

[Old Landmarks]

Am I missing something?....Am I in error somewhere?

Yes.

You are leaving out the words 'kind' and 'sort', (not intentionally of course).

Unless someone has an ax to grind against the Bible, those words could very well refer to very general groups of creatures.

God gave the instructions for the size of the ark based upon the capacity He knew to be necessary for at least two of what He referred to as each 'kind' to fit on board.

So the words used are 'kind' and 'sort', whatever that may mean exactly.

Good day.

[Wacka]

Wouldn’t all the seeds that floated be roasted to death by the superheated water and lava?

[Agamemnon]

Have owned a pharmaceutical life-cycle management consulting firm for >20 years.

[Agamemnon]

Biochemistry. Without disclosing thesis title (which will likely compromise anonymity) let's just say my work was concentrated in the study of enzymatic expression in select histiocytic leukemic cell lines.

Have owned a pharmaceutical life-cycle management consulting firm for >20 years.

[RightWingNilla]

The animals ate olives when they got off of the ark? Is that what you mean?

[GodGunsGuts]

And a business owner to boot. Very, VERY IMPRESSIVE!

[RightWingNilla]

I dont know. I had never thought about it before. Where did the food come from? Perhaps they ate fish?

[Just mythoughts]

OK this is bugging me. I found it online regarding the flood... In Genesis 6:19-21, it is written: And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. Its the "every" that is bothering me. From the fossil record, it would seem that most animals were not on the ark at all. Am I missing something?

The really old fossil record comes from the flood described in Genesis 1:2, Peter in IIPeter 3 calls it the age that WAS .."Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water perished:"

[RightWingNilla]

Hm. Since 1982, the number of people who believe in natural evolution increased by over 55%. The other categories either decreased or remained the same. I wonder if that is meaningful?

[Gordon Greene]

I appreciate you reasoned reply to GGG... it’s not always the case.

I noticed something in your reply I wanted to respond to. I think the point about who is and who is not a Christian is a very good one. For all intents and purposes, it looked as if Paul was still unwilling to call himself a Christian by the end of his life. He was still pressing on toward the goal of the high calling of Christ Jesus. Yet, you brought out several times in your response the things you do that may make you better than another or maybe less, and that’s not what Paul preached at all. Although he made it clear that faith without works is dead, he also made it clear that getting to heaven was not predicated by ones actions, but by belief in Christ as the Son of God and acceptance of Him as the Savior.

I know you’ve probably heard all these things, but it’s easy to forget what salvation is all about when everything we do is built upon some accomplishment, goal or productive moment in our lives... we want to leave something behind; some kind of legacy. I don’t think you have to call yourself the name ‘Christian’ in order to be saved, and I’d hate to see someone miss it because of a matter of semantics.

God bless.

Gordon

[RightWingNilla]

Interesting. You have a point there that the words are vague.

I guess I am puzzled by the fact that the fossil record shows such bizzare animals. Is it possible that Noah took some lizards aboard and considered them to be representative of dinosaurs...enough such that he felt it was OK to let those mammoth beasts perish?

[count-your-change]

They took provisions aboard for themselves and the animals according to Bible. Fish? Not likely.

[RightWingNilla]

Histiocytic like Macrophages? I worked with U937, HL60 and THP1 cells ages ago. Interesting.

How did you get into the consulting business?